His statement is actually worse if you see it in context. He was asked what changes he made in the national team, and Vinicius responds "the same as with the clubs he's managing, he's just PERFECT", again i'm paraphrasing here, but it's stupid and intentional to mention club football when you're asked about the national team. I know you're enjoying this because you're somehow happy should Xabi Alonso fail, but for most of us we just want to enjoy the team in peace.
Again. Vini is just praising Carlo, who is is widely regarded as one of, if not THE greatest manager in football history (and he's up there with the Phil Jacksons, Bill Billichek's, etc.) It's not Vini's fault if people then want to compare Xabi with Carlo, of course it's gonna seem almost disrespectful to even be mentioning their names in the same breath.
Apparently Vini is not the only person with the Brazilian national team who people are trying to put words in their mouth regarding the situation back in Madrid. They're saying Carlo dissed Mbappe by not including him in his comments about players without egos. https://www.kickfootball.fr/afrique/real-madrid-le-tacle-surprenant-dancelotti-a-mbappe-188150
Couldn't agree more. The club is most definitely having second thoughts about boycotting the BoD event. They know they've enabled him, and I believe that's part of the reason why he hasn't been extended. They know he's not worth what he's asking for, they know they've fuked up, and they don't mind seeing him walk. He's not on Mbappe's level, so the club won't give him Mbappe money.
Vinicius doesn't have the clout anymore at RM at a level he thinks. Ronaldo was the best attacker at RM, but Florentino liked Bale way more. Now Mbappe is the most productive attacker and he's Florentino's favourite. So Vini showing that much ego as second fiddle probably won't secure a future for him at RM.
Mbappe is the apple of Florentino's eye and there was a changing of the guard last season. Vini has become the 2nd fiddle in attack. The club sold Cristiano to Juventus, they won't mind seeing Vini leave.
Yeah but do you trust Flo's "instincts" or whatever. I wouldn't back Mbappe over Vini any more than I would have backed Bale to carry the team without Ronaldo. Vini's a proven commodity in Madrid. Mbappe and Bale are also kind of similar both kick and run wingers that rely on speed who can also play as CF's due to the need to be selfish; but, neither of them have the technical skill set (Vini, Benz, etc.) to lift the team and teammates up to their level and slowing down because of age or injuries would be career ending.
It Xabi fails, we basically don’t win any trophies. That’s the only way he’s sacked. What actual fan doesn’t want us to win trophies? We can critique Alonso for his job but us, as fans would want him to be a success.
Mbappe is the lead attacker on output and it’s clear Flo treats him as a flagship signing. That shifts gravity, but it doesn’t erase what Vinicius provides. We do not have another wide forward who can destabilize a block the way he does and the coaching staff build entire match plans around that capability. Clubs do not toss out irreplaceable profiles because someone else scores more. I agree taht he aint untouchable and Mbappe’s arrival reduces his margin for theatrics, but he still has standing.
Yes this one is clearly a pot shot. There is no possible way hes not aware of the context he is finding himself at Madrid and give an answer like this. So yea f*ck this guy. I can excuse stupidity, but I draw the line at malice. Its one thing to say things in the heat of the moment with the excuse of being passionate, another one to be passive aggressive in a controlled setting. Being an ass in general is different from having an agenda. Bring me Doku.
Classic case of reading way too much malice into a boilerplate compliment about a national team coach. Players recycle these lines all the time when talking about NT setups… .nobody sane interprets that as a coded attack on their club manager
Aren't you the one always talking about context? Its impossible that anyone is that tone deaf to say something like that in that way in this context. Even Vinicius. At some point the evidence just piles up.
You’re assuming a level of tactical media awareness that most professional players simply don’t operate on. Yes, the context matters but so does intent and the setting. This was a Brazil NT interview. Those answers are practically on autopilot….calm environment, good vibes and “the coach helps us enjoy our football.” The same canned dull line half the squad gives every international break.
This question was either asked via a mailorder "ask me this please" from a plant, or it's indeed that easy to take advantage of the guy like this.
Honestly a big mistake. Especially since they both occupy the same space and can't seem to gel well together in almost 15 months of playing in the same. Vini almost certainly doesnt deserve it based on his current production. Florentino is about to give out another trademark inflated contract like Kaka and Hazard got. Shameful idiocy.
If there is anything we know about Flo and his administration it's that if you attempt to twist Perez's arm financially, he'll break it off and stick it where the sun don't shine, ask Ozil, Cristiano and Ramos. Vini is such an imbecile that he thinks he has leverage over the club when the GOAT was told to fvck off. Nobody is bigger than the club and certainly not someone who has issues with fans across Spain and now the coach. Vini is asking for a massive increase in salary and a contract extension bonus which RM –according to reports– don't do. To add, all of these demands are severely disproportionate to his sporting output in the last 15 months. Of course, he's a gullible manchild and this agenda is being driven by his "entourage" but he also wants emotional assurances that he's #1 in the club, financially at least because he cannot be that guy on the pitch – not with Mbappe around. Either Vini lowers his demands and gets in line, or he's out the door. The club is not breaking its wages/bonus structure and potentially setting a dangerous precedence for this kid. Rodrygo is a mental midget, he'll have 1 or 2 good games, the drummers will come out playing his tune for a week but then he Goes into winter hibernation ultimately he'll cite "troubles" at the end of the season. It's a yearly cycle that I'm sick of tbf. Rodrygo, with his current lack of drive and desire has no business playing for RM. Even as a sub, he has a net negative impact.
It's so true; he will have 1-2 games where he makes everyone think this might be his big breakout but then just as soon as he peaks he retreats back into his foxhole.
You can say about Rodrygo what you want but he's the kind of guy where it's hard for us to do much better with the kind of resources at hand. Right? If he'd outperform expectations you have a Morata situation where he is immediately more valuable to others than for us, then you move him and struggle to find somebody to be an instant impact attacking sub for years (you can argue there was an empty hole between Morata and Joselu). Tricky