All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Who would be the best replacement in world football? Kvara? Olise?

    This season is going to have ramifications. Vini as highly as I rate him. I feel like if he leaves, he won't get the same success, trophy wise, but even on an individual basis.

    I love Vini but what's weird is Perez tolerating all this. It's the whole I'll make my own Neymar vibe if you ask me
     
  2. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    Brazil
    I'd get a striker, play Mbappe behind him and on the left wing.
     
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  3. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    Who?
     
  4. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Haaland
     
  5. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    Oh yea. Even if that ridiculous release clause is true.

    Mbappe and his ego will love that.
     
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  6. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Haaland is actually low maintenance in that regard. He’s more interested in winning. I know Jude liked playing with him at Dortmund
     
  7. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Real Madrid
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    Brazil
    Haaland will never happen. Alvarez also plays behind a focal CF.

    I honestly don't know.
     
  8. Marisoccerfan

    Marisoccerfan Member

    Real Madrid
    Argentina
    Oct 14, 2025
    Bring back Joselu. :inlove:
     
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  9. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Who is realistically available though? Would Vlahovic suffice? His all around game is actually improving.
     
  10. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Osimhen maybe?
     
  11. Hendrix22

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    Feb 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
  12. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    1. It's justified because that's his role. He's the chaos agent. He's the one who draws three defenders, creating space for others. His job is to be a constant unpredictable threat. You cant expect him to suddenly turn into a tidy pass first winger.
    2.Your 90% stat is something you just pulled out of your ass, but let's run with it. It creates moments of pure magic that no other player in this squad can produce. You'd rather have 100% sterile safe failure than 10% of pure genius. The Vini of today is light years ahead of the Vini who used to slip and stumble constantly.
    3.Passionate players get frustrated when they lose. He's not "demanding to leave".(at least per his latest tweet) he's engaged enough to be pissed off.
    People can go support a team of perfect, decision making robots who finish fourth every year. I'm sure their passing stats are immaculate.

    Raw percentages are a surface- evel metric, not a full measure of dribbling quality or tactical function. Doku’s numbers come from operating in a highly structured, low risk system and he rarely faces compact defenses like vini does here. When he loses the ball, City’s rest defense and positional rotations absorb it instantly. Vini receives the ball deeper, often surrounded without consistent interior or overlapping support. His dribbles are higher risk by design.
    I agree with you that he needs to use bit more brain when it comes to application of those dribbles cause losing the ball in those situations isn’t ideal but sometimes it’s the tax for creating threat out of chaos. So yes, Doku looks cleaner and more measured but that’s because his system edits out the unpredictability that makes Vini indispensable. That's the reason at the end Vini will turn out to be a better decorated player than Doku.
    Perez isn't tolerating a diva. He's protecting his asset. He's backing the player who will sell shirts and win trophies for the next few years. That's the difference between a ruthless business decision and tolerating a vibe.
     
  13. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    Then what's taking him so long to sign a new contract? If he 'really loves the club as much as he claims' then signing a new contract should've been done already?
     
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  14. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Vini: Vinícius Junior: "Carlo Ancelotti gives us peace of mind, making the work easier... everyone enjoys it."

    I really hope Pérez backs the coach against this child

     
  15. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Maybe he’s saying this in comparison to the last Brazil manager?
     
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  16. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    It's irrelevant, unless you're stupid you know how these comments will be used. It's like falling for the easiest trick in the book.
     
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  17. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Croatia
    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm going to ask chatGPT if it recognises any patterns between this last Vini quote about Carlo, him saying "I guess we're not looking to win today" last weekend when subs were warming up, and the fact that he mentioned everyone in his apology except X.Alonso after the classico outburst.

    JK. I'm not going to do that as I don't have to. But maybe some people should.
     
  18. Spanos5

    Spanos5 Member

    Real Madrid
    Australia
    Oct 28, 2023
    Maybe not a striker since the market is so bad.
    Maybe we go for a replacement instead?

    I know it’s a long shot because of his recent long term deal, but I’d love to see Nico Williams name. Spanish and young. Would be awesome
     
  19. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    I think Nico is overpriced now with 90 ME buyout clause. I like Yildiz as a talent but he's not a winger.
     
  20. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    We will likely never see a player make such a move directly from Bilbao. People think taking a player off of PSG as impossible. They have no idea....
     
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  21. Marisoccerfan

    Marisoccerfan Member

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    Argentina
    Oct 14, 2025
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  22. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

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    Jan 11, 2018
    He knows exactly what he's saying...
     
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  23. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Because he's not a charity worker. He's negotiating a contract that will make him one of the highest paid athletes on the planet. That's called business n that dose not indicate a lack of love. We're confusing a multimillion euro negotiation with a proposal.
     
  24. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    I had a lot of criticism for the club at the time for just how they backed Vini when he threw his hissy fit over not winning the BdO, and probably the worst outcome from it is that it completely emboldened Vini's problematic behavior. That he could be a total sore loser about something, have a childlike tantrum over it, and the club was "we support you, Vini", to the point that the club boycotted the event meaning that the club didn't have representatives to accept the Club of the Year honor nor was Ancelotti able to accept the Cruyff trophy, all because of Vini's self-centered behavior.

    Maybe Vini should've won, and I'm sure the club felt that way. But sometimes shit doesn't happen the way you think it should. The club should've told him to have some grace, they enabled the opposite. And while I'm not gonna say that has specifically led to where we are today, it didn't help. As it is, he's just kept pushing the boundaries of what the club will tolerate. Xabi tried to take the high road over the substitution episode knowing that if he'd benched Vini for the next game even for entirely practical reasons (home vs. a poor club, tough CL away game in a few days, good chance to rotate) it would give the media a few extra days of headlines. Seems like taking the high road hasn't worked. Now the situation calls for a more disciplined approach...unless it is that the club isn't backing Xabi to apply discipline in this case...
     
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  25. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    What's he supposed to say, - "I will only answer questions about our opponent (hopefully I can give them some extra motivation to foul me)."



    He's asked about Carlo who is currently his national team manager, who also happens to be one of the greatest managers/coachs in all of sports history and was formerly his manager with his club team.

    It's not his fault that the "new guy" at his club isn't really anything that special in comparison.
     

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