All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    With the massive contract extension that Vini is about to sign, I'm really worried about him turning into "an albatross" at the club for the next few years.
     
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  2. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Dude whats the deal here? He's a bit of a dummy but he's an absolutely magnificent player. Even the people that didn't see him as the best player on the planet last year, saw him as the second best, clearly this is an ELITE player.

    He's not perfect, and even if he can be immature and annoying, he's an incredible player for us all things considered.

    I'm not going to comment on the numbers cause we're not in those meetings to know the numbers, but there's a thinking here where you don't really get anything close at the same value spread across multiple years.

    Assuming he'll crash and burn is just peak negativity.
     
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  3. dooda

    dooda Member+

    Jun 8, 2005
    Kuwait
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  4. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    United States
    He'll be back with an even bigger chip on his shoulder, but with more humility and hunger.
     
  5. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Vini was playling like cocaine abuser Macron last year. He was so fast and energetic. This year he looks kinda depressed. It's weird.
     
  6. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    Georgia
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    Brazil
    I really want to see him and Mbappe succeed.

    I think the Bdo rally did a number on him and then seeing Mbappe come in and basically take over as Real's candidate for Bdo for the next 5 yrs.

    If he puts his head down and really lean into that supporting role, I think he can come back stronger.

    Can't wait to see what Xabi does with him.
     
  7. arcane

    arcane BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    And at the beginning of the season, it looked like Vini was showing Mbappe how its done.

    Aside from the Balon snub, I think Vini is hesitating and second guessing his movements on the pitch. Him and the turtle just tend to occupy the same spaces. And Mbappe being the more "space and ball dominant type" over Rodrygo is messing up with his natural insticts.
     
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  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Mbappé is a better player than Vinicius.

    The thing is both of them are really really good.
     
  9. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    That final sentence is extremely relevant: they are both elite players and I refuse to believe that they can't work together. Very curious to see their partnership develop.
     
  10. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    Georgia
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    Real Madrid
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    Brazil
    A good manager will figure this out. But I think at some point, one will have to take the Robin role while the other is Batman.
     
  11. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Clarity in terms of hierarchy typically helps. That's why I loved Benzema, a once in a generation talent that had all the reason to believe he was the best, but still had the clarity of mind to be realistic: Ronaldo was just that player.

    Extreme example of course, as we don't have the equivalent of Ronaldo on this team, but still. Very curious for next season.
     
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  12. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    Georgia
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    Brazil
    Thats why I think Vini, after having his season as being a Cristiano, will have a hard time stepping into that Benzema role for the next few years. But in the long run, imo it will make him a better player.
     
  13. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    I think he should focus on being the provider, as he's extremely, extremely, extremely good at that. I never expected that side of his game to develop like it did, caught me off guard. If I'm Vini, I'd be doing exactly that – focus on your strengths and let Mbappe focus on his too. It can work, but it requires a bit of rewiring.
     
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  14. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Yes. He never really became an elite finisher, but he is such a headache on that wing. He could create chaos by just being aggressive as a play maker even if he scores less goals
     
  15. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I think he's a pretty good finisher. It's just not the kind of volume that overwhelms.
     
  16. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    He improved a lot over the years. But Mbappe should be that guy. BBC worked, with everyone doing what they knew how to do well. There's no reason for BMV not to work. Vini could become an assisting machine, he just has to accept a different role.
     
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  17. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Can we name him Wini jr. please?
     
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  18. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    We can, but it does have some negative connotation I think ;)
     
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  19. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Hahaha, I was so preoccupied with a BMW forward line that I forget everything else..
     
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  20. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    The manager can only do so much, it is up to the player to understand that he is not the best player in the team (I'm not even sure Vini is the 2nd best player).
     
  21. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    Real Madrid
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    United States

    For me it's either Vini, Fed or Fed then Vini as number 1 and 2 on the team. After that arguments can be made for several players Courtois, Bellingham, Mbappe, etc., are all important pieces.



    If he grabs the CL and WC next year we will have to call him WINicious and rename the award the Balicious Jun'ior.
     
  22. dooda

    dooda Member+

    Jun 8, 2005
    Kuwait
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    Real Madrid


    And this was a down year - some hear would even swear he's washed up.
     
  23. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

    Real Madrid
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    Aug 15, 2019
    They want to sell him to Saudi, and move Rodrygo (another player they aren't happy with) to the left lol
     
  24. arcane

    arcane BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    I fail to see how your statement and tweet connect.
     
  25. petros93

    petros93 Member

    Real Madrid
    Greece
    May 27, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Greece
    I disagree about Mbappe being the best out of the two tbh. I've seen Vini win the ucl as the number 2 and and the number 1 choice. Some of those psg teams mbappe was on were pretty good and he couldn't push them over the edge. Also had one or two big lost chances in the final.

    I'm not saying one is clearly better than the other but I fully trust Vini to go back to his top top level next year.
     
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