All I Do Is Vin Vin Vin - The Vinicius Jr. Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by RM or None, May 23, 2017.

  1. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    ESPN FC is campaigning pretty hard to give Rodri the Ballon D'Or over Vini Jr.
     
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  2. lecannois

    lecannois Member

    Real Madrid
    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    Please don’t project how things are in America as some sort of benchmark of how things should be in the rest of the world. America has lost (and I would argue never had) any moral high ground.

    Each place is different…. different culture, history, and circumstances…. and should only be discussed in the context of itself.

    Everyone deals with racism of one form or another everywhere. I certainly have. Vini needs to understand intent. Are the people truly malicious or just trying to say anything they can to get me off my game?
     
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  3. lecannois

    lecannois Member

    Real Madrid
    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    I’m sure he would cry “racism” in this case too, when it would come down to 2 things:
    - Rodri was exceptional and won the Euro and EPL
    - Bellingham and Vini are going to split some votes
     
  4. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    GTFO

    Rodri was not even player of the year for his team, let alone his league

    And for some reason got given best player in Euros and that alone is his claim

    This is a joke
     
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  5. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yeah nah, for sure.

    When a whole stadium is chanting "monkey" to him, it's only the non-racist ones who are doing it. They're just trying to throw him off his game. The racist ones would never chant "monkey" to a black player. That would never happen in Spain. /s

    Here's a little tip for figuring out if something/someone is racist.

    >if X=shouting monkey chants @ Y (black player); then X=racist.

    It doesn't matter what the intent is. They are insulting him on the basis of his skin colour.

    Vini doesn’t need to understand anything. He needs to walk off the pitch next time this happens and everyone in our team needs to walk off with him. Then the club needs to exert pressure on the RFEF, the RFEF needs to pressure the policy makers and people need to be held accountable.

    Where I don't agree with Vini is wording this whole thing as a catalyst for WC hosting being stripped away from Spain. He needs to be smarter with his words. Ultimately, a change can happen, but not overnight, and certainly not by making sensationalist statements like that.
     
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  6. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Agree 100%. Great post.
     
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  7. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Flo needs to step up and put pressure on the FA, as not if WHEN were forced to walk off the pitch. RM won’t be penalized. Time for Spanish Football to put their money where their mouth is.


    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/sport...a-briefly-walk-off-pitch-after-alleged-racism
     
  8. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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  9. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    So we are an impossible-to-reach benchmark who never had any high ground? Thanks for the astute insight, frenchie, and the lesson on nihilistic universal cultural relativism.
     
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  10. lecannois

    lecannois Member

    Real Madrid
    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    America was never a benchmark to begin with... other than in their own minds. If you actually spend any time at all in other parts of the world, you'll realize the delusion most American people live in. I'm American, so we're clear.

    In the past, America was admired for certain aspects. For example, it's economic success, military might and media. But a general benchmark for how to behave? Not for a long time. Maybe for a brief period after WW2... but that ended quickly.
     
  11. lecannois

    lecannois Member

    Real Madrid
    France
    Jul 6, 2023
    If Real Madrid walks off the pitch, the game is forfeited, the default score would be 3-0 AND there would be sanctions from FIFA, UEFA and La Liga.

    Just so everyone understands.

    Stop being a f-in pu$$y and fight through the nonsense. I swear... society is becoming so soft. What's worse, it's apparently ok to be a whiny little b-tch.
     
  12. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Bro

    how you gonna tell someone who is being racially abused by thousands of people to stop being a whiny little bitch

    Get a grip tough guy
     
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  13. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
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    So the society is getting soft, and Vinicius is a whiny little bitch. Racism happens but there's no racists - they're just trying to get under Vini's skin. You also don't approve of Vinicius fighting this the way he is, your idea of fighting it is that he should just ignore it.

    You sir are a natural born problem solver. How did nobody else think of that? You're also a manly man. Not like these "pu$$ies". You're a hard man. Unlike this soft, pathetic society. Good for you.

    Now, what I actually think is that if you had whole stadiums racially abusing you, you'd roll over, cry and be in therapy for the rest of your life. But sure, go ahead and posture like a 12 year old.

    Maybe check your carbon monoxide alarm battery.
     
  14. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I would love for something new to be introduced to this discussion but there isn't. International break unfortunately means stupid discussions.
     
  15. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    What's the stupid part?
     
  16. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
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    The fact that we're recycling the same discussion over and over and nothing new gets brought to the table. The moderators then need to comb through all this stuff to make sense of it.

    I know you're looking for a gotcha moment here but this unfortunately won't be it.
     
  17. pramod

    pramod Member+

    Realmadrid
    Sep 4, 2006
    Hyderabad @ India
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    What I was trying to convey is whether Spain or La Liga has done enough to stop racism. There may be many cases of racism, but we have significant countries that are taking sufficient measures to combat it.
     
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  18. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    You're quite the piece of work..
     
  19. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    The guy can't handle RMBS but is advising someone about handling entire stadiums.

    The ignorance and stupidity is incredible.
     
  20. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    The kneeling thing has worked wonders I heard :p
     
  21. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It's a bit unrealistic to expect major changes in human behavior overnight. It typically takes years of not generations. So to look at "kneeling" or symbolic gestures alike as pointless just because it hasn't solved a deep rooted problem is a bit ignorant.
     
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  22. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    It's funny because people keep doing this "gestures" and at the same time, they say things keep only getting worse. If things keep getting worse, shouldn't they change their approach?

    Or at least stop complaining a bit since nothing will change in their lifetime, as you said.
     
  23. pramod

    pramod Member+

    Realmadrid
    Sep 4, 2006
    Hyderabad @ India
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    "Your comment reflects your character and upbringing."
     
  24. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Hopefully, I will redeem myself before my death.
     
  25. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Behavior has changed in certain aspects over time. People don’t go around calling each other retards or gay slurs or making obvious sexual
    Jokes to women

    People call it “woke culture” but it is an improvement on behavior whether it is genuine or out of fear of public shaming.

    That’s what @celito was referring to
     
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