Relevant Quote: The Sun reported that the girl consented to sex with a player from one Premiership club - but that seven other footballers from another top division club then forced themselves on her. The girl later reported the alleged attack at a police station. A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "We can confirm that the Metropolitan Police Service have received an allegation of rape from a 17-year-old female. So, at least according to one poster here, the street rumor is one Charlton guy and the seven were from Newcastle? Also, most experts to catagorize rape as a violent crime of aggression (it's about power, not the sex, they say) - so speculating on someone's agressive, lawbreaking past might actually be relevant.
Carlton Cole from Charlton plus Dyer, Bellamy, Ambrose, Jenas, Bowyer, Ameobi and Bramble from Newcastle are the names being thrown around everywhere on the English soccer sites
No, the First Division is the top division of the Nationwide League, which is one level below the Premiership.
Does anyone else find something deeply indecent about many of the responses to this thread? A girl gets gang-raped by seven men, and we jokingly speculate about which footballers it might be based on their public personas? I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but if this were your daughter, how would you feel about this thread? Mods, is it all right for users to routinely bandy about the names of particular footballers, suggesting with no evidence that they have participated in a gang-rape? It seems to me the truth & decency standards for these boards ought to be a little higher in this discussion than during conversations of who might transfer to Fulham.
I am certainly not disputing that rape is a crime of violence. What I am saying is that one's propensity to get into fights at a club is probably not a very good predictor of one's propensity to rape someone. I may steal your last piece of gum, but does that mean I would steal a million dollars from you?
As opposed to someone who would not steal my last piece of gum? If a million dollars was missing, would I suspect you instead of he? Probably - although I admit some people are very law-abiding on the small stuff that would go instead for the big hit. As far as the nature of the crime making discussion taboo - have we derided the victim in any way or minimized or mocked the seriousness of the issue? I don't think TOS is violated if people share info on player names from other message boards. We're not exactly a reputable news outlet, so I don't believe anyone is being libeled with the dribbles of info that are coming out. If it is all baseless, I, for one, will fully exonerate the names I've seen here. If it is not, inevitably the Internet would be ahead of the mainstream press with info.
I'm not mod in this forum, but I think this is one of the problems when those ass clowns at the S*n publish things like this. If someone just posted on this forum with a link to another random website making these allegations, I would most likely shut the thread down out of idiocy. However, it could be argued that since it was "in the paper this morning" that we have a right to discuss it. Likewise, instead of throwing out names as sheer speculation, someone can claim that they know a reporter, or know someone in Scotland Yard, etc. The fact that a "real" paper like the S*n published this makes it a legitimate discussion topic, despite the fact that in all likelyhood we are tarnishing people's names and reputations for no reason at all.
All black guys and a convicted biter? That has to be speculation. Wait, Bellamy isn't black, but Bill Bellamy is.
From the off I was thinking this. The Sun is the worst piece of sh1te paper ever-of-all-time. The Evening Standard said it was one player who brought the girl back and then ONE fellow player raped her. I guess the others were in the other room playing cards.
Realistically Does anyone remember the number EIGHT? [Giggsy, Ronaldo, Parlour, Lauren, Vieira, Lehmann Keown, Ash] I'm not paranoid! But couldn't it be true that tabloid is putting gasoline on the fire? I really don't believe it because I didn't see the crime being committed. However, if you still think that those unnamed eight footballers behaved irrationally, instead of throwing handbags in a West London Hotel, then I apologize.
I named players who had been in trouble before when we still didn`t know the identity of the club. Newcastle have assembled a team of thugs so it seemed, of all the teams it could have been, NUFC were the most likely. We now know the which club the players are from. I would agree though speculating which players are involved in this particular incident, would be wrong.
It's now three premiership stars and five from other clubs, including one from a lower division club. Amazing ... I thought the transfer window was closed.
Anyone know more about this? (taken from mirror.co.uk) AN England footballer under investigation after an alleged rape told his club yesterday: I had nothing to do with it. The star, one of eight players said to be involved, said he was not even at the Grosvenor House Hotel in Park Lane, Central London, on the night a 17-year-old girl claims she was attacked. Two of the star's Premiership teammates are also under investigation. The girl made a complaint to police after agreeing to sex with a footballer from a different team to the three Premiership players. She told detectives she had not wanted other men "joining in". In addition to one claim of rape, she is understood to have made several allegations of sexual assault. The three Premiership stars and five others from different clubs had met in a London nightspot for post-match drinks. They then went to the five-star Grosvenor House, where a room was allegedly booked on a credit card in the England international's name. The player - who cannot be named for legal reasons - is understood to have met club chiefs for two hours after training yesterday and strenuously denied any involvement in the incident. He also denies staying at the hotel on the night in question. When asked about the allegations as he arrived at his £400,000 home, he said to reporters: "Nice one." One of his two team-mates being investigated also gave his version of events to club bosses. The third player asked his lawyer to contact police on his behalf. Sources at the club said the manager was "incensed and bewildered" at the affair. The club chairman was said to have "hit the roof" because he had not been made aware of the allegations. A source said: "He turned up at the training ground an hour before the players, which he never does, and held emergency talks with the manager. Then he went back to the club. The biggest star involved was called in for a meeting at the ground, which went on for a couple of hours." Of the five other players who are being investigated, at least one is understood to be from a lower division club. Police forensic experts were searching a third floor bedroom and bathroom at the Grosvenor House yesterday. The room and the corridor outside were sealed off. Two large evidence bags were propped outside the doorway. Guests in adjacent rooms were allowed to pass only with a police escort. CCTV footage from the hours before the alleged early morning attack was being checked to see if players were filmed going into the hotel. The Grosvenor House is equipped with dozens of security cameras at its exits, the main entrance and along corridors. A spokesman for the hotel chain said: "We have been asked to make no comment." All inquiries were directed to Scotland Yard. A Yard spokesman said: "Inquiries are ongoing into allegations of rape by a 17-year-old woman. "The allegation was made in person by the woman at a central London police station. We are still at an early stage in this inquiry." The teenager was being questioned by the Met's specialist Sapphire unit. Four of the players - including the star at the centre of the inquiry - were named on a British internet website yesterday. Now I have been trying very hard to find that site but had no luck...
I think it might have been Footy 365's forums, or part of their network of club sites forums (called the Rivals network). They shut down their boards for a while because of this, don't want to get sued.
It's the players listed earlier in this thread. And it's still nonsense. Moving from the S*n to the Mirror is hardly an exercise in validation.
I remember a lot of good stuff coming from the Sun. Before WC 2002 the Sun made the people pray for Becks´ foot, and see, it actually worked
Good posting Now I have been trying very hard to find that site but had no luck... [/B][/QUOTE] All British sites are censoring postings, 606 in BBC have taken a lot of pains to delete even those that remotely could contain any info. The game played on Friday night was Arsenal Newcastle, the girl apparently went to police on Saturday, and tabloids are saying that the players were at the bar after the game. But it is highly unlikely, after the FA has pressed charges against Arsenal players, that any of them would engage in such criminal activities. I just cannot see Newcastle players behaving like this either. But the big gossip today is that Sir Bobby Robson HAS RESIGNED. It's just gossip and hasn't been confirmed at all. If he has resigned, it would be more related to the team doing poorly, more realistically. BBC America did say in the news this morning that there were eight players involved and all of them play in the Prem, as confirmed by a spokesperson for Scotland Yard. Many fans are saying this is a fabrication.
Drudge posted link to Ananova on his site I don't know about the rumors but Drudge posted the Ananova link on his site ("Teenage girl 'raped by football stars'" http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_824021.html ) A police investigation is under way after a teenager reportedly claimed she was raped by a group of Premiership footballers. The 17-year-old reported an alleged attack to police in central London, Scotland Yard confirmed. The alleged incident is believed to have taken place at a West London hotel over the weekend and involved eight Premiership footballers. The Sun reported the girl consented to sex with a player from one Premiership club - but seven other footballers from another top division club then forced themselves on her.....