Alan Sonora at FC Juarez

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Scotty, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This offseason, most players in Argentina who have options abroad are going to try to leave. You can't stay in a place with 100% inflation. You're contract becomes worthless in a few months.

    Don't read too much into one tweet. There are probably a ton of factors that when into his decision that don't fit into 250 characters. But I'd bet consistent minutes and paycheck stability was probably the driving factor - which is big for most players.

    Yes, Mihailovic was called up in June and I don't buy it that if he was called up in June he'd likely be going to Qatar. He wasn't called up in September and he's been very good for the better part of 2 years.

    I'd wager a considerable sum that the clubs most after Sonora were in Liga MX or elsewhere in South America. He has a decent resume but isn't young at 24.
     
  2. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perception is reality, and it's not. Berhalter hasn't shown interest in Miazga since he returned to MLS. Same things for Moore (for a real camp) & Gioacchini. In fact he's throttled back on Moore. And Fredo Morales wasn't getting any opportunities when he was solid for NYCFC.

    So if players have this perception, it's not backed up empirically. Actually the opposite has occurred. That's on players for not doing their research, as well as fans who pop off anyway.

    Sonora may be an exception because he wasn't a failure in 2nd or 1st rate leagues like they were. That means there's a ceiling to their play. They're like a 4A player in baseball. Whereas players on the rise in the minors are real prospects. May or may not perform in the bigs. Same thing for a star in Japan who gets paid. That's a Zimmerman type, who makes almost 2 and a half million a year, which is more than Brooks or even Otamendi, Benfica's actual starter. Yet, some still have a blanket archaic attitude about individual MLS players, in spite of circumstances like this, or naturally starting their career there, and their actual NT performance.

    The one advantage MLS players do have is January camp, as a fringe player, w/ a limited opportunity once a year, and then to work their way up from there. It's a built-in one that exists w/ every manager. Klinsmann more than offset due to his blind prejudice ala Adam. And he was ultimately a failure of a manager.

    As far as what Sonora will do in MLS, I don't he'll be a smash hit. He's not that type of player who sees things the vast majority don't, is some dribbling dynamo, or has next-level physical tools. He's an all arounder. So he's not a 1:1 replacement for Mihailovic, who has super vision. He's a cog in a wheel, maybe even one of your more important ones. This could have made him solid in another top league, maybe that's nominally even moderately better than MLS, like Portugal. That could have been a better call for his career. As a DP or big GAM guy expected to be your creative engine like Mihailovic or Zelarayan, I think he could wind up underwhelming.
     
  3. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Latest on Alan:

    Arch Bell
    @ArchBell

    UPDATE: USMNT prospect Alan Sonora training with Independiente until his contract expires on the 31st. Montreal deal never came to pass. Has an offer from Liga MX, but still aiming for MLS. Hopeful of a USMNT call-up for January camp.
     
    NietzscheIsDead repped this.
  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some speculation he will stay in Argentina:

    TyC Sports
    @TyCSports

    Soñora, without a team and does he resume talks with #Independiente? The midfielder was released at the end of December and was sounded out by Colón, as well as MLS.
     
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #431 bshredder, Jan 16, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2023
    Argentina is still at 95% inflation and Sonora is 24 years old. It would suck for him to have to settle for one of his prime year contracts to be in a country where it’s impossible to make any money.

    World Cup champs? Sure. Place to play your prime years? No way
     
  7. adam tash

    adam tash BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    is there seriously no MLS team that will sign him?

    he stated he really wants MLS,.....surprised by this, big time

    MLS is dying for any and all argies it can get...and won;t sign one with US eligibility??? what gives?
     
  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Coming in for the January USMNT camp. Papa Sonora is happy.

     
  9. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Michele Giannone
    @MicheleG3

    Alan Soñora tells me what @ArchBell already reported weeks ago, no deal was reached with Montreal. He has offers from teams in MLS, México and Brasil; but priority would be to sign in MLS and hopes to have it resolved as fast as possible after the USMNT camp is over.
     
  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sakibomb523 and Winoman repped this.
  12. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FC Juarez. Hmmm…. I would have expected MLS before Liga MX. Decent mid-table Liga MX club that may push for a playoff spot. I think Ventura Alvarado is think as well.
     
    Winoman repped this.
  13. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the surface, it's a terrible choice.

    Firstly, league-wise, it's a moderate step down competitively, if anything. It may be trending better than Argentina, but Sonora was there under their prior circumstance.

    Secondly, LigaMX haven't earned a rep as sellers. So you got to figure Liga MX/MLS is the highest he's going to go now.

    Thirdly, the club's he's going to is not very talented for the league. That's bad for his possession style. And just for general winning desires.

    Fourthly, it positions himself poorly for the national team not in our manager's eye all the time, and w/ the ability to get released in the non FIFA windows.

    Finally, Juarez is a really dangerous city.

    If this indeed goes down, you wonder if this is a sacrifice for his brother, or just a desire to play with him. It's bad for his career, though.
     
  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sakibomb523 and Winoman repped this.
  15. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winoman repped this.
  16. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Makes his Liga MX debut:

    FC Juárez
    @fcjuarezoficial

    0-0 | 55'

    Cambio de mis Bravos.
    ⬆️ Alan Soñora
    ⬇️ @ToroFernandez26


    #ContigoMásBravos
     
    Winoman repped this.
  17. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    He’ll be out of Argentina’s brutal economy, which is a step up.

    The window by which to earn money in this sport is very small. You have to get it while you can.
     
    Gacm32 repped this.
  18. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bungadiri repped this.
  19. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I don't know how they do things down in Juarez: Alan Sonora playing for pride.
     
    Winoman repped this.
  20. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    #445 NietzscheIsDead, Feb 15, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2023
    Soñoran Desert: Alan and Joel Brave Juarez

    Not very positive, but Juarez is a grim place. I haven’t been down there in years, but its a tough place for people to live.

    I wonder if they are living in El Paso?
     
    Winoman repped this.
  21. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the song Mexican Divorce (written by Burt Bacharach & Bob Hilliard in 1961)

    "Down below El Paso lies Juarez
    Mexico is different, like a travel folder says
    Cross the Rio Grande and you will find
    An old adobe house
    Where you leave your past behind

    One day married, next day free
    Broken hearts for you and me
    Takes no time for you to get a Mexican divorce"
     
    Marius Tresor and butters59 repped this.
  22. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    That adobe house is still there and visited by many.
    [​IMG]
     
    Winoman repped this.
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winoman repped this.
  24. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Subs on:

    FC Juárez
    @fcjuarezoficial

    1-0| 67'

    Cambio de mis Bravos.
    ⬆️ Alan Soñora y Diego Chávez.
    ⬇️ @agus_urzi y Javier Nevárez.

    #ContigoMásBravos
     
    NietzscheIsDead and Winoman repped this.
  25. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    I have an excuse to watch Juarez and their limon y chamoy uniforms now.
     

Share This Page