Agudelo Accepts Contract!!

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It does seem strange as this kid hasn't been one that's been talke about (Exantus, Kassel, Duka, and I forget who else).

 

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I don't have a problem with signing an NYRB Academy product who made the U17 WC team, per say, but it does bring to the fore, yet again, the matter of who is making the personnel decisions?

 

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Obvious signing. He's a talented academy kid.

So this means agoof is still in charge and making decisions to further muck up the roster. Splendid. What next they sign another defensive midfielder to a guaranteed contract?

You would think that RB would want the new GM and coach making these decisions, whoever they may be and whenever they get signed, but i guess not.

My beef isn't that they are signing this kid but that agoof is still around making the decisions.

 

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Simple reasoning. It's obviously not Stover because he wouldn't know a soccer player if one came up and bit him, that's not his strength. Montgomery is the youth coach, unless you can show me otherwise, I doubt Stover knows who he is or ould be willing to justify a decision which could affect his job on Montgomerys say so. Which leaves Agoof and Richie. Any signing goes through him because he is still the GM of this team until Dietmar says otherwise. He will turn-in RBs protected list for the dispersal draft with Richies input by the 23rd of this month, if Richie is still around. Or do you believe Stover is the guy making these moves.? Because there is pretty much no one else to make the big decisions.

 

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that's the problem with this club, you never really know. as transparent as mud.

But adding this kid is a great step, whomever did it. Now draft Duka, and sign Kassel out of Maryland and we've got 3-4 nice young home-grown talents.

 

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Sure this was an easy decision, so easy that an incompetent individual such as agoof could choose correctly. But how about the protected list in less than a week? Who will be this years Parke?

 

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If they sign Agudelo they are done for 09. They could sign Kassel in 10 but i'm not sure if that's during preseason or afterwards. Maybe someone could answer that for us. As well as what would happen if we sign Agudelo and Kassel declares for the draft. Are we then SOL on him as a homegrown?

 

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Well, I could see a scenario where RW has been given authority over roster moves, or a situation where RW, in consultation with Montgomery, agreed that it would be a wise move, and Agoos is kind of there to rubber stamp things. It's also possible that RBNY has already made their FO decisions, which include RW, and they are finalizing the details this week. But I'm just making up scenarios, too, as are you.

However, I completely agree with your point that the lack of clarity on the composition of their management going forward is frustrating, and I agree that it would be better if the actual holders of the SD and coach positions were making the decisions regarding the architecture of this team going forward. While I'm glad the FO is not stagnating and making no moves, I'd still like to see the people who will have to work with these moves in place.

 

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We didn't really have much last year either and yet Parke was somehow left unprotected. Be worried.

 

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Theoretically you are correct; however, let me ask you a question.

From a practical perspective, why do you think RB would keep Agoos around and tell him that he's not going to be involved in signings, but he will be involved in compiling the protected list, etc.? Does that make any sense to you? I mean, as Jeff opens his mouth about whether he likes Agudelo he gets buzzed from Austria: "hold on, Jeff, you can't have any input on this because we're saving you for the protected list". I mean, think about it. Is RB's grand plan to keep Agoos on staff so he can be involved in certain personnel decisions but not in others and then let him go entirely?

 

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No, I can think of no sensible reason to keep Jeff Agoos on the payroll, unless they need a guy to stack the new rolls of toilet paper in the supply closet. No argument from me regarding JA. He must be a true charmer to his bosses to have kept his job this long.

I am saying that he may not have been the one to initiate this move, or in any way prompt it along. It might have been something RW made happen in this instance. It's also possible that they have a policy in place that moves can only be made if there is unanimous agreement amongst the FO decision-makers, taking the decision-making power out of JA's hands alone. I'm also in agreement that the time for clarity regarding the FO is due.

 

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I suppose it's possible that Agoos, by chance, didn't have anything to do with this but it doesn't even make sense for Richie (or anyone else) to be making these decisions when, supposedly, a "new S/TD/GM" is coming on board.

I continue to maintain that Red Bull is taking this long because they have no freaking clue what to do. They will end up with the same type of decision they've made since they bought the club: ill-informed.

I really have no doubt that we're on the same page, this just gets very frustrating.

 

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It appears to have just dropped in their laps from the looks of things. MLS seems to be going after quite a few of the Under-17s. Agudelo being one of them. Being a "Homegrown player", MLS may have just given RB the courtesy to use that tag and sign him before exposing him to the rest of the draft. Again this is a great signing whether he pans out or not it's alays good to see academy youth getting a shot at the Pros with the big club.

But I would still like to know what happens with Kassel if he declares for the draft in the next few weeks. Duka seems to be ours at No. 2 if things work out. Having signed Chirgadze and now Agudelo, would this force Kassel to stay another year at Maryland or declare and get exposed to everyone else in MLS via the draft.

 

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When does the clock reset? Is it based on the calendar year, or do 2010 moves begin following the MLS Cup? Just speculating on the reason why this move might have had to be made now.

Anyways, nice to see all the development that RB has been putting into the Academy start to work towards building their own team.

 

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MLS academy rules make my head hurt. They aren't set in stone and can change from one day to the next so it's really hard to keep up with it.

Anyone else have something more definitive than guessing that could help here? Beuller?

 

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Agreed that the rules are not very clear... if he counts for 09 this makes this even better as it leaves us the ability to use our final 09 slot, but even if it doesnt this is stilll great news

 

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More on Agudelo and some info to hopefully clear up the confusion on youth player signings.

Link HERE