After this season........

Discussion in 'SL Benfica' started by gmb1, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. gmb1

    gmb1 Member

    Jun 17, 2006
    california
    Will quique be around if they dont win the league and who do you think would be a good replacement. What players would they need to bring in to take them to the next level.
     
  2. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well not to long ago, there were articles online that QF was staying for more than a year. His contract says 2, but I highly doubt he will stay. He wants a job in Spain and Athletico Madrid have already contacted him.

    Personally, I would like to see Jorge Jesus or Jose Mota. They are great coaches and not to mention are Portuguese. Benfica need a Portuguese coach who knows what he's doing and won't just stick around for 1 season. Benfica needs a Paulo Bento. Meaning a loyal, smart trustworthy coach who can stick to a team for a long time. Build confidence and trust in a team.

    Player wise, Benfica definitely need a good LB, RB, RM and they should be all set. But it also depends on who they get rid of. But as of the team we have right now, those would be the positions we need to fill.
     
  3. Guilhe

    Guilhe New Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    I'd like Quique to stay. Another coach means we'll have to start all over again, new coach means new players, possibly new tactics, new dynamic, etc...We keep switching coachs of course the team will also drastically change every year. Unfortunately I do think Quique will probably go back to Spain at the end of the season.

    If he leaves I'd like us to get an experienced coach who's already proven himself. Someone like Terim for example.(Probably no one like him will want to come but we should at least try)


    Jesus is rumored to be going to Porto



    Sporting has done a lot more for Bento than Bento has for Sporting, still he'll probably leave against the club's will at the end of the season.

    Did you see the way he handled the Vukcevic situation?


    We'll see at the end of the season just how trustworthy is he. (I hope he stays but I don't think that's likely, especially if someone wants him elsewhere.)

    The only reason Bento is at Sporting for so long is because he's incompetent enough so that no bigger clubs want him but not too incompetent so that Sporting wants to get rid of him.


    I agree with the qualities you want for a (possibly) new coach, I just don't think Bento is a good example of those qualities.
     
  4. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Didnt mean for people to interpret Paulo Bento as an example of the qualities. You misunderstood what I was saying. The qualities I was listing is the qualities Benfica needs in a coach. I didnt mean Paulo Bento has those qualities lol. The only example I meant to use for Paulo Bento was the fact that he remained with Sporting for a long time. Meaning Benfica needs a a loyal coach who will stay with the team several years. Sorry for the mix up. Guess I should of rephrased it.

    Player wise, Im not to worried. Rui Costa will do what's best for the team. Im sure Rui will get the proper replacements we need (RB,LB,RM). Im more worried about the coaching situation. If QF will stay, if he'll improve etc. Just wish Rui could be more involved in the coaching aspect. Assistent or something. Maybe in a few years the head coach. I can definitely see him leading Benfica and having success.
     
  5. Benficafan

    Benficafan New Member

    May 10, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Benfica needs a coach NOT from Portugal or Spain. We don't win with Iberian coaches at all. Fact is we win more with foreign coaches then our own . We've won I believe 4 league titles with Iberian coaches and the rest were from around the world
     
  6. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Good point. Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Italian French I dont care as long as he knows what hes doing and wins titles im happy.
     
  7. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  8. Benficafan

    Benficafan New Member

    May 10, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Although I wouldn't mind Humberto Coelho come to Benfica once Quique leaves in a couple seasons :D
     
  9. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Haha yeahhh wouldnt we all love that lol
     
  10. Guilhe

    Guilhe New Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    Misunderstood you then,sorry.
     
  11. Mijorho

    Mijorho New Member

    Dec 1, 2008
    I'm leaning towards wanting him to leave. His conservative coaching doesn't suit this club. When you are one of the big clubs in Portugal, you must crush the minnows. He often coaches like he's on a middle of the table club. I've seen no progression from this club whatsoever.
     
  12. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Absolutely agree with you. 21 games into the season and we still look like we did in the beginning.

    Something's gotta give...
     
  13. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    Not enough portuguese players in the side
    Not the right blend of youth and experienced
    No continuity
    Eliseu, Antunes, Sa, Da Costa, Vaz Te, Duda, would be players which would improve the balance our best teams have always had a large amount of portuguese players with some quality imports. In our team their are quality imports but some absolute rubbish.
     
  14. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I'd love for any of those players to be on the team, especially Antunes since we desperately need an LB and Duda. Da Costa would be great if we sell Luisao.
     
  15. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Benfica's looking at Afonso Alves from Boro. That would be exciting
     
  16. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    That would be a good pick up. He was rumored to come to Benfica like 2 years ago. I want to see benfica get the necessary players to fill the positions we need though, before thiinking about other positons. (LB,RB,RM)

    Porto is supposedly going after Eliseu. Benfica need a scout. Look at Porto, Cissokho, Miguel Lopes, Varela, Hulk, and now Eliseu. porto knows how to get and find quality players. They can sell all their star players and yet always seem to have a strong team. They recruit for the future while still being able to have a competive team for the present. This is something Benfica lack greatly.
     
  17. mantorras77

    mantorras77 Member

    Nov 6, 2007
    Boston, MA USA
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    I totally agree, our scouting department needs a major revamp! Eusebio, sorry I love you man but as a scout it's time for you to hang them up. Porto's scouting has been World Class compared to ours.
     
  18. Benfica_fan

    Benfica_fan Member

    Jun 5, 2002
    Connecticut
    I'm pretty sure Eusebio isn't Benfica's scout, and I don't think he's ever been. He's a living symbol of Benfica.

    As for Porto, I agree they have done a great job signing players over the years, but I don't think they have a World Class scouting department. They're scouting department is probably on par with Benfica's. Players like Lucho and Lisandro were well known when Porto purchased them, as were some other players like Diego. Porto had the money to sign them. Some players like Jardel were actually scouted by Benfica, but Porto swooped in underneath Benfica and signed him, while other players like Deco were "discovered" and signed by Benfica, only to be traded to another team and then make his way to Porto. Also, good players on smaller clubs in Portugal are always being scouted by the big 3, it just happens that a lot of the times Porto ends up with the player because they offer the best deal. I do give Porto credit for signing the right players. They sign the player that they know will fit their system and fill their needs, and that's something that Benfica still needs to learn how to do.
     
  19. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Not even comparable...
     
  20. Guilhe

    Guilhe New Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    I don't think we need Alves. Everyone loves to buy strikers, they're always the players whose possible signing generates more excitment but even if we loose Suazo; Cardozo, Nuno Gomes, possibly Makukula and someone from the youth ranks will be enough (especially if we keep playing in the same system).


    Our scouting isn't that bad, as it has already been said, some of Porto stars were players we looked at first but couldn't afford (most recent example is probably Lisandro) and we still got some good players like David Luiz, Sepsi, Yebda (got him for free and apparently we've already been offered 7 million for him), Sidnei, etc...
     
  21. mantorras77

    mantorras77 Member

    Nov 6, 2007
    Boston, MA USA
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    my bad, i was under the impression that Eusebio worked for us as a scout...

    Porto bought Lopez for €2.5 million....we couldn't afford that???

    Porto paid €3.6m to purchase half of the rights of Lucho....we couldn't afford that???

    Porto paid €7m for Diego.....how many times have we wasted that amount over and over again the past few years.

    Benfica's scouting dept needs some upgrading........about Deco, Maniche, etc. then the issue must be with our player development dept and it's obvious that needs some major work. Although i did read somewhere that RC is working on that.
     
  22. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    After this season......QF needs to go...
     
  23. castanha

    castanha New Member

    Aug 5, 2004
    I have to agree. The team really hasn't gotten its act together all year.

    Hey Benfica4Life, do you ever go down to the Portuguese Social Clube of Cranston?
     
  24. Benfica_fan

    Benfica_fan Member

    Jun 5, 2002
    Connecticut
    Benfica probably could have afforded those transfer fees, but at the time I'm not sure if Benfica could have afforded their annual salary.
     
  25. ThespecialoneJM

    ThespecialoneJM New Member

    May 13, 2008
    San Jose
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Part of me wants him to go and Part of me wants him to stay because year after year we lack consistency because we have a new manager with new player turnover and new tactics....its getting pretty ridiculous. I'd let him stay 1 more year.
     

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