"Afghanistan and Iraq will be studied for years for their brilliance."

jesus ********ing christ how do these people still have support?!?!

 

From a military and technical standpoint, there are aspects of the operation that were frankly brilliant. From a strategic and political standpoint, well Cheney must be smoking the crack again.

 

How so? It's not like we were invading Japan or Germany circa WWII.

 

Well, we deposed a dominant regime in a country while commiting minimal troops on the ground in Afghanistan coordinating air power with local forces. From a special ops standpoint I think thats pretty signifigant.

In Iraq, we again toppled a regime with the minimal of ground troops, taking the capital with breathtaking speed. Now to me, the execution with such a small force was excellent. The problem was that no matter how well executed the plan is, the handling after that (and ultimately the security consideration with having so few troops on the ground cost us).

 

Tell that to the Russians.

Edit: And what he ^ said.

 

Hey, they still study Robert E. Lee, too, but we're not all speaking Cracker today.

 

I'm no military stragetist or anything, but did forces in either country really put up significant resistance? I mean, the billions upon billions that we invest in our military should give us every tactical advantage against 3rd world countries, right? Not to say we did a bad job or anything. But c'mon, David Koresh fought harder than some of these @sswipes.

 

No offense, but militarily speaking our conquest of Iraq was the geopolitical equivalent of Jackie Chan beating up a four year girl. I mean, at full strength and with our support Saddam almost got his ass kicked by Iran. After we wiped out his armed forces in GW1 and after a decade of sanctions, the most remarkable thing about our campaign is that we almost ran out of supplies and that the Bush regime grossly miscalculated the Iraqi public's willingness to be conquered by an infidel army. Then there's the cluster********** of Abu Ghraib... "Genius" indeed. Only most of our ground troops were geniuses in their professionalism. Their leaders - especially the civilian leaders - were, sadly, nincompoops.

 

Dick Cheney will be studied for years for his stupidity.

 

Remember the vaunted Iraqi Republican Guard in Gulf I? So many of them dropped to their knees when the US troops showed up that it looked like a Paris Hilton home movie.

 

Actually, a more accurate quote would have been: "Afghanistan and Iraq will be studied for years for the comedic brilliance of Comical Ali."

 

Afghanistan was pretty brilliant, in the way we used minimal force and an indigenous guerilla army to overthrow a regime in a short time. I know the regime was weak, but look at how little we put into it, and how quickly it worked.

Iraq? The only thing that'll be studied for is as a cautionary tale about the difficulties of occupation.

 

Afghanistan and Iraq weren't even fair fights. And, given the state of Iraq today, it's hardly something we should be congratulating ourselves over.

 

And in Afghanistan atm you have full international support, something you the US' leaders didn#t care about in Iraq.... (there are French and German troops in Afghanistan)

 

this statement is so off the charts bizarre, that not even our favorite republicons will go anywhere near it