Advantage

Discussion in 'Referee' started by pacref, Dec 29, 2002.

  1. pacref

    pacref Member

    Jun 8, 2000
    North Texas
    HS rules dictate that we a foul every time the ball is "handled" deliberate or inadvertant.
    Question 1 : Is inadvertant handling (ball kicked into an arm) that goes to a defender a gppd place to call advantage? Or, do you just let it go?

    Question 2:
    Red is on a breakaway the white keeper challenges for the ball and fouls red rather recklessly. Red manages to follow through and scores. Do you call the goal back or call advantage, and then give the keeper a yellow for dangerous play?

    What rationale is there in taking a way a goal to satisfy the foul?
     
  2. whipple

    whipple New Member

    May 15, 2001
    Massachusetts
    Answer 1: "Rule 12, Section 2, Handling, Article 1: ...A player shall be penalized for deliberately handling, carrying, striking, or propelling the ball with a hand or arm." - NFHS Rules

    The HS rules do not dicatate that a referee penalize an inadvertant contact with the hand and the ball. No call, no advantage, nothing - it is not a foul.


    As long as you have not stopped play prior to the ball crossing the goal line, between the goal posts, and under the crossbar, the offense was not by the attacker and the attacker did not commit an offside infraction, then the goal should stand., irrespective of whether you reconginzed the foul and signaled "Advantage Play On!" or made no call, considering the foul to be trifling, and allowed play to continue.

    If you had singlaled APO, then were the advantage not to materialize (ie. the player was unable to get a shot off, or fell, and a goal was not scored (though not because a goal did not score) then you would then be justified if the offense occured within the PA, to stop play and restart with aPK, (and possibly a caution UB, or send-off for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity.)

    There is no rational to call back a goal, however, before you restart with a kick-off, you may want to consider whether the keepr's offense may not also have consitituted misconduct, and if so, you might caution the keeper before restarting play. The misconduct, however, would never be "dangerous play" because, if you look under Rule 12, Section 8, you will see that it is not misconduct. Rather, were you to caution the player, and show a yellow card, it would be for unsportsmanlike conduct - a deliberate tactical foul.

    Most likely, however, unless the foul by the keeper was flagrant or cynical, you just stop time, record the score, report to the scorer's table, and restart with a KO, to get the game moving. Don't look for trouble.

    Have fun,

    Sherman
     
  3. Keith

    Keith New Member

    Jan 3, 2000
    Denver, Colorado
    HS rules are no different than USSF when it comes to defining fouls. Don't take the written word so literally.

    On the 2nd question, advantages applies, but you can always go back for misconduct, (as long as you don't restart).
     

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