Adu vs. (fill in the blank) {R}

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by elbita, Jul 16, 2005.

  1. elbita

    elbita New Member

    May 4, 2005
    London
    let me start by saying that i don't expect adu to be on the world cup roster, although i'd be excited if it happened.

    but when i thought about adu specifically compared to a few other guys, the idea started to seem less crazy.

    who is more likely to score a goal, get an assist, or get fouled in a dangerous position...in the world cup

    adu (version 2006) or casey

    adu or wolff

    adu or ching

    adu or twellman
     
  2. metx

    metx New Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Hell is not, but is he ready?
     
  3. twenty

    twenty New Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    All those guys, maybe save Casey are more dangerous than Freddy. Do you get MLS in London? All the guys you listed are faster than Freddy too.
     
  4. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Please, lets give the kid a chance to grow up and mature a bit before asking him to carry the USA to the Cup. Lets revisit this topic four years from now.
     
  5. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    I hope you're joking. Freddy could run circles around Conor Casey and Brian Ching is no speed demon, either. I'm skeptical that Twellman is any faster than Adu. In any event, Freddy is already a better dribbler, passer and set-piece taker than all three.
     
  6. WC2010Champs!

    WC2010Champs! New Member

    Sep 4, 2004
    Charlotte, NC
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    I actually agree with you that adu would be more likely to score or get an assist or get fouled in a dangerous position but i believe he is also more likely to fade in and out of a game. Its that immaturity that keeps him in and out of the starting lineup with dc
     
  7. pokemoncards

    pokemoncards New Member

    Aug 17, 2003
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    He's a starter for D.C.
     
  8. fusion101

    fusion101 Member

    Jan 11, 2002
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    For Adu being so young, his vision of the game is still better then Ching and Casey IMO, he gives better service, but they are physical more matured and would be more effective then Adu at the full international level. I think Ching is the best of all the players listed. On a break away the most likely to score - 1-Ching, 2-Adu, 3-Wolff, 4-Casey.
     
  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Yeah, i don't get that either. He's clearly faster than everyone on that list besides Wolff.
     
  10. nowherenova

    nowherenova Member+

    Jul 20, 2003
    Formerly Terminus
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    I would take Adu before all of those mentioned except Twellman.
     
  11. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)


    Hey, pass that sh**, you're f***ing up the rotation. ;)
     
  12. twenty

    twenty New Member

    Sep 28, 2004
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Freddy's skills are amazing, but I don't know where everybody got the idea that Freddy had speed. I think people either just judge his speed based on his body type or mistake quickness and athleticism for speed. The main thing holding him back right now is his lack of speed. Have you ever seen him outrun somebody? If he had any speed he'd be running defenders ragged, because he is able to get them off balance every time. The problem now is that they always recover easily after getting beat. The kid is slow right now.
     
  13. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    The question isn't whether Freddy is blazing fast. The question is whether he is faster than the guys you have mentioned. Casey and Ching are glacier slow. They are guys who pound away near the goal. Twellman probably has slightly more speed, but not a whole lot more. Freddy, although not a speed demon, was still according to DC United article last year, the 2nd fastest man on the team .......... next to Josh Gros. He's faster than those 3 players you listed. period.
     
  14. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    In the U 19 World Cup two years ago he outran the entire Argentine national team before serving up the pass that Bobby Convey drove home to put the US up 1-0.
     
  15. elbita

    elbita New Member

    May 4, 2005
    London
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    i wouldn't expect Freddy to "lead us to the cup", i'd expect him to come on late-ish in the game and make something happen. i don't know that bruce would use a roster spot just for a super sub.

    the later it gets in the game, the more risky it would be for the opposition to take a cheap foul just to intimidate Freddy. as a starter, he might get fouled/intimidated out of the game early.

    from that list, who's more likely to serve a perfect cross to the head of Dempsey/Donovan/Johnson? i'd say Adu.

    who's more likely to get fouled near or in the box because he's got the quickness and skills to get half a step on a tired defender? probably Adu.

    who's more likely to score a bunch of goals over a B2 or MLS season?
    Twellman, Ching, Casey...but that's not what we're talking about. a lot of people would pick Twellman over Mcbride if you're talking MLS, but few would choose Twellman over Mcbride for the world cup. i'm thinking about a handful of plays that might make the difference between progressing and not.

    Bruce will probably bring another big guy in addition to Mcbride, so that's 3 forwards (GAM, Mcbride, maybe Ching). he'll probably bring one more striker, although it wouldn't be entirely necessary because we have several hybrid attackers.

    i think Freddy brings the good things of Wolff, only with more skill, but less experience.
     
  16. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    I'll agree with that. Last year, he was quite slow. This year he has improved, but is still no speed demon (about average for an MLS attcker, would be slow for the NT).

    Indeed. He has great foot speed, which gives him top notch good quickness.

    Well, it's natural to a certain extent to be slower running with the ball than without it, but I agree with the tone of your post. If Freddy had above average speed, his ball moves would work much more often. Freddy himself has said, "I need to get stronger and faster." He worked out hard in the offseason just to get where he is now, and he apparently intends to repeat that this offseason.
     
  17. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Lightning quick is his main advantage, but he's no slouch speed wise. He's certainly fast enough so that defenders keep an eye on him. He made some great runs off the ball this week to pull defenders out and open up space for Gomez and Moreno.
     
  18. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Adu is nowhere ready for the senior nats. hopefully, he will be before 2006 but only time will tell. He hasn't impressed in any international competition since he was in the U-16s. Give him time. He has potential but that doesn't mean he will ever be a superstar.
     
  19. pokemoncards

    pokemoncards New Member

    Aug 17, 2003
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    though to be fair, none of the pros impressed at the u20s this year.
     
  20. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Wonder if that Mainz team knows that one of their forwards is glacier slow.

    Sorry man, but slow as you say and bundesliga/intl forward means 'not slow'. The effect you got by exaggerating is that you sound like an idiot.

    Comedy, pure comedy.
     
  21. Asprilla9

    Asprilla9 Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    Beaverton, OR
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    despite his inexperience, Freddy still has one thing going for him .... it's a skill he always maintains, even when he's playing poorly: his ability to win penalty kicks. how many PKs has this kid earned in WYC matches?

    and despite all the naysaying, part of me just has to wonder if he couldn't pull something like that out of his sleeve if we brought him in in like the 85th minute against someone like Ukraine or Netherlands (or anyone I guess) in the WC.

    now is he likely to get calls?? of course not. not at all. but there is that possibility that he beats some tired Eastern Bloc defender so bad that the ref HAS to call it.

    i haven't made a decision either way, but I wonder if Adu could have a very special use as a late, late sub .......
     
  22. PSsoccer123

    PSsoccer123 New Member

    Jul 22, 2003
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    I agree. I think Freddy would be more useful than the fourth forward we'd bring along, especially considering Donovan and Beasely can play forward too. I'd like to see him in the role Cobi had at the last World Cup. Adu would excel in that role and he can make things happen. Conor Casey can't make things happen against Cuba. I think there's a good chance Adu could create or score a goal if he came in the last 10-15 of games. Not to mention, there would be a lot more media coverage on the U.S. team. The U.S. World Cup team would be all over sportscenter, just like Wie would be if she qualified for and then made the Masters. I don't think Bruce would bring him, but I don't see any better option, and I only see positives out of bringing him. He's going to be a star for years to come and the World Cup would be invaluable experience for the good man.
     
  23. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    Poor kid. Why would you want him to be Mexico's punching bag?



    :D
     
  24. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)


    ever watched him play? glacier before the ozone hole.
     
  25. Steel Keeper

    Steel Keeper Member

    Jun 5, 2005
    Pittsburgh
    Re: Adu vs. (fill in the blank)

    It's called exaggeration. Casey is extremely slow and whoever said Adu wasn't faster than Ching or Casey is simply wrong. Twellman has an argument, but no one knows until they run a sprint against each other. If Adu takes a big leap towards the end of the season I would like to see him get a call-up early next year.
     

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