Adu: I've been to Hellas and back, now it's time to Rize up

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  1. jclampit

    jclampit Member

    Apr 12, 2002
    Not to me. If given a chance to settle into a side and then given a run of games, and if he then does these things, you'd think that you'd have to play him and be happy, no?

    (Then again, he was scoring at a torrid pace for Benfica when his minutes were slashed in half and then to nothing. Short sample size, but still, why sit someone who's scoring goals?)

    Yes, that would be maximumly optimal. (And, apparently, harder to find than you might expect.)
     
  2. Bremas

    Bremas Member

    Sep 30, 2009
    Any word on when these playoff games are?
     
  3. Erlking

    Erlking Member

    Aug 7, 2007
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Originally Posted by TimB4Last [​IMG]
    Google gets it right ...

    Quote:
    SPECIAL TASK ADU'YA ..
    Hope Kayihan coach, ice melt, take more responsibility in the game is an American star Freddy Adu'dan leadership wanted to do. Freddy Adu did not work the last weeks League away matches, TKI. Lignite match performance with a goal scored and put it on the form showed. Hope that resolves the coldness between them with Adu Kayihan coach, an American special task was to match the star Samsunspor. Kayihan, Adu'dan leadership to do in the game and the defense team to be taken between the positions of balls scored his friends wanted to bite. Black players Kayıhan'a giving assurances in this regard, his teacher at ease.

    ... or at least partly right.


    And more importantly, what is a "Lignite match performance"?
     
  4. City Dave

    City Dave Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    Cleveland, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. ImNumberTen

    ImNumberTen Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Even more intriguing than the section on Bob Bradley is this part:

    Now this wasn't exactly how the Greek newspapers portrayed the situation.
     
  7. gabbar

    gabbar New Member

    Mar 16, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The newspapers and the press secretary of Aris sure did a good spin job. Being shut out of playing time was always about the money.
     
  8. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    However, chances are the Greek papers were right and Goal is, as usual, full of shit.

    Did that little Greek sports tribunal skip their minds?
     
  9. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Fellas,,,,,,,

    Playoff game will be on TV.

    Game 1 : (first leg) Orduspor vs Caykur Rizespor
    Date: 23 MAY Monday
    Kickoff time: 20:00 pm local time
    TV : TRT

    Good luck to the Adu and his team.

    regards,
     
  10. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    = nothing

    A deperate club trying to save some more cash.
     
  11. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Eh, Aris thought they had a cause. They went to court. They won. Freddy didn't appeal.

    And that makes the Goal article a pile of garbage.

    As usual.

    Who's their editor?

    Oh, right ... Andrea "FieldTurf kills" Canales.

    'nuff said.
     
  12. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    Actually, Andrea is the editor of the US portion of the site. Last I spoke to her, she doesn't have editorial control over the stories generated out of Europe.
     
  13. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't the whole case about Adu training with another club while under contract(loan) with Aris? So, say Freddy was given the choice to take a pay cut or not play. He chose not to take the pay cut, but was left under contract and did not play. Then trained/trialed at Randers, which is where he was at fault. Since I imagine that they put neither ultimatum nor the alleged permission was put into writing, Freddy didn't have a case. Aris seized the opportunity to save some money.
     
  14. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Very like another case of Adu's being poorly advised, although perhaps he doesn't take advice well. But I also seem to recall Aris saying that Adu had not arrived in proper shape for pre-season training, though I might be conflating two different episodes.

    We tend to be Adu-centric - or at least American-centric - in our thinking, but cases like this must occur 'all the time.' That is, a club sours on a player, or the club's financial position worsens, so they want to dump him (or halve his salary, etc.) but they can't.

    So they say, "Okay, Freddy, you can practice with the team, but we're going to fine you $100 every time you touch the ball." No one needs to spell it out, the message being, "You're not welcome here."

    Presumably the players have some protections and a formal grievance procedure to follow, if they feel they have been mistreated. In Adu's case, he may have tried to pull a fast one and slip off to Randers unnoticed, putting Aris back in the driver's seat, allowing the club to wiggle out from under.

    Happily, Adu's now with a club that wants him, and he seems fully motivated to push himself forward.
     
  15. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    What exactly did Aris "win"? The right to terminate a contract in late November that Freddy was planning on walking away from 30 days later? Why would Freddy even bother to challenge it?

    Aris' lawsuit was like a girl trying to break up with you after you've moved all your shit out and not spoken to her in weeks. It's over Freddy! I really really mean it! :rolleyes:
     
  16. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    The title left off the part of the quote where he says "if we get promoted." I hope he considers Rize even if they don't get promoted - he needs a bit of stability, even if he's capable to play at a higher level.
     
  17. Erlking

    Erlking Member

    Aug 7, 2007
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. Jacques Strappe

    Mar 24, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are right. These things do happen all of the time and FIFA is very well aware of it. Here is a very recent story from former Toronto FC midfielder Rohan Ricketts about his experience in European football. http://www.column10.com/2011/05/rohan-ricketts-moldovan-nightmare-forced-to-play-unpaid-and-leave-the-country/.

    In some places (Is suspect Greece is one of them), the law is one thing and reality is something completely different. Money talks, and it is a simple risk/ reward equation for leaders of these football clubs to decide not honor player contracts. The FA of Greece is going to value future support from Aris FC over Freddy Adu 10 times out of 10, so who do you think they will side with in any dispute? Also, it is not beyond the realm of possibility for Aris to have paid the legal officials, say $50k, to save from paying Freddy Adu another $200k. North American business ethics, such as honoring contracts, can not necessarily be applied to everywhere else in the world. In some countries, stories like this are business as usual.
     
  19. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ^^^^^that right there
     
  20. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Something like €425K, which was their entire share of his contract for 2010-11.

    BTW, they went to the Greek sporting court and won there. The sporting court and the entire federation is still under the aegis of FIFA. If Adu felt aggrieved, by it, he could have challenged the ruling in Zurich.

    For comparison, consider the case of the Serbian kid, who was strong armed into giving up his contract in Russia. He protested to FIFA and the RPL made the Kuban thugs pay the guy's full salary.

    There's absolutely no reason for Adu to forfeit $600K, if he didn't have to.

    This is Greece, a member of the European Union, not North Korea or Taliban FC.

    As Tim said, this is very US-centric discussion by the US-centrics.

    OK, thanks for the correction.

    There's no reason to beat up on her, if she is in the clear.
     
  21. jclampit

    jclampit Member

    Apr 12, 2002
    Aris fans are great. Amazing, in fact. Media reports, official club stances, and supposed insider leaks, though, often sounded like they came straight from Baghdad Bob.

    If it wasn't for the flip flops and internal inconsistencies, it would be easier to take their accounts more seriously. Heck, given Freddy's track record (i.e., inability to latch on anywhere), many, if not most, would have simply taken their reports at face value.

    For example, yesterday the team is livid and Adu is not a man of his word because his agent convinced him to back out of a promise to slash his salary, while today his €800k salary has nothing at all to do with his situation and you are a fool if you believe the team cares about that in the least (um, I got that from *you*, before you changed your story).

    Or, he showed up clearly out of shape (let's just ignore timeline inconsistencies for now) and is not the useful player he was advertised to be anyway, thus we want his salary off our books in the worst way and refuse to let him train...yet we are appalled and livid, hearts absolutely broken, when he *betrays* us by trying to find another team that will actually take his unwanted self and unwanted salary off our books, giving us...gasp!...what we want.

    Look, it's not hard to believe a team doesn't think he's useful enough to shell out €800k a season for. (In fact, I was surprised they ever thought that was a fair figure to begin with.) If they'd just said that and stopped there, most would believe them. I still believe this to be true (after all, while he was decent enough on the wing, that's a lot of money).

    It's this posturing - like they think you're stupid (not saying we aren't, btw. :)) - that's comical at times. It was theater. For the Greek courts, their own fans, I don't know...but theater, nonetheless.
     
  22. gabbar

    gabbar New Member

    Mar 16, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    The color of money.
     
  23. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    "A tragic situation exists precisely when virtue does NOT triumph but when it is still felt that man is nobler than the forces which destroy him."

    Maybe that's overdoing it a bit. :eek:

    If Aris did not pay Adu, did Benfica (have to), or did Adu go unpaid (and if so for what period of time)?
     
  24. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Benfica is still paying there share of his salary.
     
  25. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Are you conceding that Aris stopped paying him last August when he wouldn't take a pay cut?

    Or do you think Aris paid him until he violated his contract by trialing with Randers without approval?
     

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