3 in the PM, I'm pretty sure. I've never heard of this Olhananarama club. If Freddy can't get some minutes in against them, then we know it's gonna take a lot of injuries for him to get anywhere near the playing time he needs to go to South Africa
Olhanense are a newly promoted club and can call on the services of the widely renowned Juan Martin Pietravallo in midfield.
If Pietravallo plays in this and Freddy doesn't, the folks who claim there is a bias against American players in Europe will suddenly have been given an awful lot of ammunition.
They play for different clubs. Just because a Dominican can crack the KC Royals lineup but a Puerto Rican can't crack the Chicago White Sox lineup doesn't mean that there's a bias against Puerto Ricans in American baseball.
There is no bias in your analogy. Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominicans are sought after by all the big league teams. They have a good reputation... In European club soccer it's almost the exact opposite. Americans have a negative reputation in general, though it is changing and is not the same everywhere (Fulham, Scandinavia and a few others), and we've had some bright spots (Reyna, McBride, Deuce, Bradley, Gooch, etc). To say there is no bias is just plain ignorant, but to play the bias card everytime is as well... With Adu, he's probably experienced a bias by some of the coaches, disinterest by others, and desire by a few. Hopefully his current coach is in the latter category... Go Cubbies
Yes, foreign teams are willing to sign good American players. They're willing to sign any good player regardless of passport. Americans have a negative reputation because most of them aren't as talented as you need to be to play football at that level. It depends on the situation. There's been quite a few American players who had no business playing in a top European league (Hejduk, Wolff, Johnson, Bradley at first, Casey) who were given chances and accordingly sank or swam. Europeans are not biased against Americans. They sure as hell are biased against third-rate players.
I don't. You are right. But how do YOU know there isn't? Yes I agree it depends on the situation. That is what I was getting at. You are also right in stating most yanks don't have the necessary skillset that other players develop sooner. This creates a bias against American players in general, but is not definate. But you can be sure that someone who is examining two players, one a yank the other from x country, is going to have that bias attitude somewhere in the back of their mind whether it be a microscopic amount or a big tatoo on the forehead that states "I don't like yanks", and while both players may be exactly alike the yank will be at a disadvantage because of it. ADU's case makes it even harder for him because he was marketed as such a phenomenon... This general attitude can be sensed and seen to anyone who will open their eyes and ears. Listen to commentators, fans, teammates, etc. Their is a bias for certain coaches, players, etc. It is just the way it is. We have opened a lot of eyes since 2002, and even this year, but it will be sometime before we completely wipe out that bias. I'm not saying it's like this everywhere or even in most places, but it does exist and I play with immigrants every week and can see it and hear it. If you can't see it or choose to believe it doesn't exist than I just don't know what to say... Oh and I do agree about the Euro flops you mentioned...
It is not up to him to prove something doesn't exist. It is up to you to prove that it does. Far more important, does anyone have a stream for this match?
Umm...that is what the rest of my post was about And if he can call me out to prove that it does, than I can call him out to prove to me why it doesn't. You sound like my ignorant philosophy teacher, but i'm sure you are much more intelligent and informed (not sarcasm). Yes does anyone have a stream???
I believe that people are selfish creatures who try to maximize their own benefit. Certainly, I'm quite certain the people who run top soccer teams are like that. So to claim that there is unwarranted bias, you'll have to show that some coach/manager is going against his self-interest by playing a less talented non-American over a more talented American. If the bias is warranted (ie, American players suck), then I don't know what you're going on about. Again, my mind boggles at people who can flatly state there is no bias in major league baseball against players from certain countries yet can also state that there exists such biases in European soccer. How are the incentives in European soccer any different from incentives in MLB?
This is supposed to be showing it. Probably a 35% chance it will. http://content.longtailvideo.com/fi...stream@internap_1_1755852&stretching=exactfit
No Adu. So much for resting for the league game. http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/aovivonew.html No Pietravallo either.