Fans, Word around the league is that Colorado has contacted the Revs repeatedly about Hernandez now that Grimandi has left. Maybe Stevie Nicks can pry Mark Chung or Chris Henderson from Los Rapidos. One must believe that Hernandez would prefer to return to his native Dallas crib. Hernandez for O'Brien or Vaca? Stay tuned Revolutionarios.
You seem to have as inflated sense of Hernandez's worth as he. I'd be genuinely surprised if you got even Henderson out of that posted list. But Vaca? O'Brien? Huh-uh. Why would Dallas add another medium-talent defensive midfielder when it's got Deering already?
nobody wants a player with average to above average skills who has an inflated view of his ability,runs his mouth, and undercuts the coach in the press!!!!!!!!! he'll rot on the bench until he calms down or until injuries force the coach to use him.
'Cause Deering is getting old, and the Burn won't be sure if Jordan Stone can replace him until they actually throw him in there... Still, NO WAY you're getting O'Brien for Hernandez.
I would take Chung for Hernandez in a heartbeat. He would be a nice complement to Steve Ralston on the left side, and I think we'd do OK with Cullen, Kamler and/or Joseph in the DMF position, depending on the formation and other factors, such as whether we sign a true AMF or not. If anything, Chung would take a lot of pressure off the perception of the Revs being a one-sided team, and could spread the attack to either wing. Both players are American and they probably make similar salaries, so it might be do-able if Mister Hanky the Christmas Poo doesn't change his mind... Tom
Somehow I can't see the Rapids giving up Henderson or Chung (who've accounted for 10 of the team's 22 shots so far, and 5 of the team's 12 shots on goal). When you get beyond those two, Carrieri is the only guy who stands out - for more reasons than one. As far as Dallas is concerned - it just doesn't seem to make sense. The Burn are not going to let go of Vaca and letting of O'Brien would be madness - as much as I'd love to see him wearing the red-white-and-blue. So who else is there? Nobody the Revs particularly need or want (not that Dallas doesn't have good players). Wait a few games. If the Rapids drop a few more and then have to face the prospect of loosing Mastroeni during the Gold Cup, things may shake out a little. By the same token, if the Burn continue to play the way they are now, they may have to do something drastic. Either way, it could be that draft picks rather than players that provide Hernandez' ticket. Assuming he needs to go at all...
That will never happen in a million years. Maybe a billion. Having said...God, I would love to see Mark Chung in a Rev uniform. He is class, top to bottom.
I think that Burn fans have an equally inflated view of Vaca. Before the season, there were rumors of Vaca coming to NE, and some Dallas fans thought it would take more than Twellman to get him. I've seen two Dallas games, and he hasn't played at anywhere near that level. When Paraja comes back, I'd send him to the bench and leave O'Brien in the lineup (and I'll agree that Ronnie is worth more than DH). As for Colorado, assuming we are going to sign an attacking mid (or some type of central mid) I'd probably try for Schmidt (he's local and they have forwards to spare) or Beckerman (P-40, which would give us more money for a signing). We'd probably have to give up a lot to get Chung, who's starting to get up there in years. I'd go for a straight swap, but that wouldn't happen.
Interesting comments from Clearblue: looks like both Colorado and the Burn might be willing to deal. IMHO, Colorado would sooner give up their liver and left leg than allow Chung or Henderson to leave Denver. However, I wonder if there's some thought being given to the following: an exchange of "problem children" (terrible descriptive phrase, I know) of Hernandez and Carrieri? Maybe send Hernandez and Harris to Colorado for the enfant terrible and a reserve defender? That being said, Nicol might look to a more straight up swap, looking to replace Hernandez with a defensive player; might be something to think about considering the emerging versatility and play of Shalrie Joseph. Think Colorado would be willing to let go of Wes Hart? As for Dallas? Tough to say who Dallas would be willing to give up, and at what position. While it may be a stretch, if Nicol's looking for someone who can be disruptive in defense, yet someone who's more than willing to push forward into attack... I wonder if Bobby Rhine might be an option? The former UConn stand-out has consistent numbers both in terms of scoring and distribution, 13 goals and 19 assists over the last three seasons, and while he's predominantly played as a forward, he might be suitable in midfield, a player who could bridge the backs and the forwards from an inside position. Might be something to consider: my guess is that he's be cheaper than any foreign import, his style would seem to work well with the Revs... a hard-worker, strong, and he'd bring some pace to the center of the pitch as well. Some possible line-ups: 4-5-1 GK: Brown RB: Heaps CB: Pierce CB: Llamosa LB: Franchino RM: Ralston DM: Cullen/Joseph CM: Rhine CM: Joe-Max Moore LM: Kamler FW: Twellman 4-4-2 GK: Brown RB: Heaps CB: Pierce CB: Llamosa LB: Franchino RM: Ralston CM: Cullen/Joseph CM: Rhine LM: Kamler FW: Twellman FW: Joe-Max Moore Maybe El Jefe could chime in with his two cents on whether this might be possible, converting Rhine to midfield if, IF he might be available. The Magpie
I was thinking Hernandez for Carrieri as well. One bench-warming headcase for another. Though I'd rather get a P-40 or a draft pick. If either Ngodzo or Cancela work out, the deal may be a matter of freeing cap space more than adding a valuable player.
Yes, and there was also talk of getting an allocation for him from the Mutts that you would have used to sign Earnie Stewart. Vaca for Stewart? I wonder what the DC United fans would say about that... Tom
I've said it elsewhere that the Revs could use some speed to open up counter-attacks. Carrieri would certainly fit that bill. Imagine him up top with Twellman with Moore slotted in behind them. I could see alot of goals coming from this combo. CC could be getting alot of balls played into space for him from Brown and Franchino. Moore works hard enough and has enough ball holding skills that we probably wouldn't sacrifice too much defensively over our 2 d-mid alignment, either. Lee
The Colorado bid is intriguing - they really could use DH much more than Dallas, particularly given Rodan's excellent point about Mastroeni and the Gold Cup. Of the realistic options, DH and Wolde for Carrieri and Schmidt seems possible, but I wonder if Colorado couldn't be persuaded to take DH, WH, and 2003 cap relief (to help sign their rumored English/Scottish midfielder) for a first round DP and Schmidt?
I thought that the Revs wanted to gain cap relief in the deal to sign a midfielder of our own. Also, if Grimandi left, would the Rapids still be in need of cap relief?
I would trade DH and Wolde for Chung...shoot I might even do DH and Kamler for Chung if I thought we had the SI guy lined up and Joseph and Noonan would be able to contribute soon, which seems to be the case.
In the exchange that I proposed, Colorado would take on two medium salaries (DH and Wolde) in exchange for one small one (Schmidt) and a DP. On a salary basis alone, the Revs come out way ahead here. Clearly the Revs could use some of this to sign Ngodzo/Cancela/?, but I imagine some would be "left over" which could be used to sweeten the pot for Rapids. I'm guessing that after the Grimandi debacle, they're going to be thinking of a top shelf replacement, and would like to put together all the cash they can. It goes without saying that if Colorado is offering Chung, which I doubt, that's the way to go.
before any trade is made regarding gaining cap space, how bout we make sure we have someone ready to sign and play the next possible game for us. I don't want the revs losing Wolde and Hernandez and getting Schimdt to sit the bench for a couple weeks while the Revs management have problems signing Ngodzo or Cancela.
Who for? Rhine, Thomas, Vaca? I'd go for Rhine or Vaca no problem. Thomas I wouldn't go for, as it's not enough value for DH, even with his complaining to the press. I'm thinking a trade to Dallas will involve more then a straight one-for-one swap. I'd love to get Gbandi, but I'm guessing he's going to stay near home, despite his NE ties. Lee
Probably not going to happen. Davis is a favorite of Jeffries and shows lots of flexibility (especially with an injured and aging Pareja). Plus Brad contributed nicely to the only productive scoring threat that the Burn had against the Revs. Not likely to happen.
I don't know if he's going to displace Martinez anytime soon on the left, and Pareja gets plenty of minutes in the middle. After Pareja gets back, they'll have Martinez, Davis, Vaca, and O'Brien to man the two outer spots. If they want DH, they may be willing to part with one of these, and I'd guess that Davis would be the first to go.
If I were a betting man, I would bet that if Hernandez-to-Dallas trade happens, the player that Dallas sends to New England will be Bobby Rhine. Of the other usual suspects that get mentioned in these sorts of discussions: Ronnie O'Brien - Yeah right. It's gonna take more than Daniel Freaking Hernandez to get Super Ron out of Dallas. A lot more. Joselito Vaca - No, he may not be "all that" in MLS. But he's still proven to be quite a useful player, and even if he's not big or strong enough to play in the middle and not fast enough to play on the wing, he's still got tons of skill and can make that oh-so-deadly pass. And Burn coaches and management rate him quite highly and are not going to let him go for anything outside of a Grade-A blow-your-mind sort of offer. And I don't think that Daniel Hernandez comes up to that level. And don't give me all that "well, he's not THAT good" jibba jabba. If there weren't something to the guy, his name wouldn't be the first one you bring up every time the question "Who will Dallas give up in exchange for our garbage?" comes up. Bobby Rhine - Quite a bit more likely. Right now, Rhine looks like he's going to be the odd man out amongst Burn forwards, considering that the other three (Kreis, Cerritos, and Johnson) are essentially untradeable for one reason or another and considering that the Burn are trying to find another forward on discovery. In any case, I wouldn't expect the Burn to exactly give up the farm to get DH. I'm sure they're interested in him and I'm sure that they're willing to listen to offers. But since this trade appears to be driven mostly by the Revs to get rid of a malcontent, since DH has shown himself to be a malcontent in three places already, since Mike Jeffries has already shown that he has little tolerance for malcontents on his team, and since Jeffries and the rest of the Burn staff like Jordan Stone at the same position, I wouldn't expect too much from the Burn in exchange for DH. At the end of the day if the Revs do trade with the Burn for DH, it'll probably be for Bobby Rhine straight up, with maybe a little sweetener thrown in by the Revs, like a late round draft pick.
Well, if anyone with the Revs is listening, I'd move Hernandez for Rhine without a moment's hesitation. The Magpie