Adidas Thread [16] - all info, pics and new here please.

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  1. jessepv

    jessepv Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Looks like they've convinced you too :)
     
  2. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Fair enough, but the playmaking aspect was there in the marketing as well. And actually with the Magista "playmaking" has replaced "control" as the main buzz word.
     
  3. jessepv

    jessepv Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Some of the new adidas ones are pretty close to the 90's shorts: [​IMG]
    These have a 7" inseam :http://www.adidas.com/us/tastigo-15-shorts/AC2934.
     
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  4. jayc23

    jayc23 Member+

    Dec 2, 2011
    Singapore
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    haha yea they did, I was young and impressionable then, and had yet to try on the Morelia 2's. Also, red/White colourway plus being a huge Fabregas fanboy all played a part. The design of the boot was awesome too.

    Yea, point taken about Magista, but I think with Magista its really down to it being hugely popular CTR's successor + Flyknit. I've not been really convinced by Opus tbh. I've tried on a friend's pair and tbh honest it just felt like the kanga-lite version of the Tiempo's - solid, comfortable, nothing spectacular but gets the job done, but why would you pick that over the Tiempo's?

    anyway forgot this was an Adidas topic.

    I remember getting a sample pair of the Nitrocharges like 6 months before it came out, so I had the opportunity to really feel the effects of it without being swayed by any marketing. I remember speculating and thinking the 'energy pulse' on the soleplate was to have a similar effect as the Adipowers. Definitely didn't feel the 'energy return', but I really enjoyed the extra padding.
     
  5. derbyyank13

    derbyyank13 Member+

    Nov 8, 2008
    Niigata, Japan
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    I put customers in them if they needed something indestructible. I never had anybody come back with any problems with the Nitrocharges.
     
  6. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I never saw a pair go bad on my players. They are a pretty nice boot, they just lacked the right "story" from adidas. Personally I thought they were more honest to the legacy of the Predator than the LZ and Instinct lines.
     
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  7. derbyyank13

    derbyyank13 Member+

    Nov 8, 2008
    Niigata, Japan
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    I think you're right. The adverts for it should've been done differently........
     
  8. MeganB

    MeganB Member

    Jan 6, 2015
    Club:
    Liverpool LFC
    Maybe it was the energysling, but it took me forever to break my nitrocharges in, but once I did, I loved them. I also give them huge credit for saving me pain when I got my foot stepped on, and also for giving me a very protected feeling when I started playing again after my foot was broken (while wearing instincts!)
     
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  9. jayc23

    jayc23 Member+

    Dec 2, 2011
    Singapore
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore

    interesting, how would you have done it, taking into account your experience with your customers.?
     
  10. derbyyank13

    derbyyank13 Member+

    Nov 8, 2008
    Niigata, Japan
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    It's not like I have fully plotted this out but I would've pointed out the durability factor more. Maybe call an endurance shoe rather than an energy shoe. Especially given the huge dive in the product quality in this market over the past 5 years. Maybe market it as a "Tough shoe for Tough players"
    Something like that, a shoe for when you are in the wars so to speak.
    The issue would be to make sure that customers are told it's a shoe for any position as there are farrrrrrrrrrrrrr too many customers coming in saying things like "Well I'm a winger so I need to wear a speed shoe" and so on.

    I dunno maybe something along those lines.
     
  11. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I have to say I never really fancied trying the Nitrocharge - When I tried them the upper just seemed way too thick for my liking. They just kind of reminded me of a Predator and at that point the Predator was still very much alive.

    appleCORR
     
  12. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I dunno...

    I feel like the lack of durability on boots now compared to 10 years ago or more, is the 'elephant in the room' for companies. Marketing a boot like that would only add more scrutiny to their other boots/would bring these questions more to light.

    It's funny though, how you mention customers and a specific boot for position. That really is all marketing.

    I still remember I want to say on mythbusters them testing the Predators (accelerators) to see if the 'panels' on the boots really did anything. Even as a dumb teenager I knew better, and mythbusters only proved it.
     
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  13. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Funny how gimmicks come and go. No one really talks about "swerve" anymore. For a while lace covers were the latest necessity, and now that's gone. Will be funny to look back on the collars ten years from now.
     
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  14. derbyyank13

    derbyyank13 Member+

    Nov 8, 2008
    Niigata, Japan
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    Power boots will be back in force within the next few years.
     
  15. newone88

    newone88 Member

    May 2, 2006
    San Francisco
    Soon to come, headbands to allow you head the ball with more power and goalie glove to allow you maximum saves and extra reach...(-:

    I'm always for innovation and new technologies but I hate the marketing behind it.
     
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  16. Alex57910

    Alex57910 Member

    Oct 28, 2013
    remember those power balance bands you could wear on your wrist they tried (and somehow successfully did) to sell making ridiculous claims about strength, balance and power? pretty sure there was a lawsuit following that...
     
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  17. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The headband was done already, as an April Fools gag in 1995 by adidas and Neil "Razor" Ruddock. It was the first full year of Predator hype and it was in full swing. On April 1st 1995 there was a story in the papers about how Razor was going to wear the new "Headator" head band to ensure powerful and swerving headers in a match the next day.

    The original adidas Predator was released for the 1994 World Cup in the USA. The shoe was a huge hype machine, it claimed added power, swerve, and control of the ball due to the rubber on the upper. One of the tag lines was "100% legal, 0% fair"; this helped fuel the urban legend that Preds were not FIFA approved and would be banned because of the unfair competitive advantage they gave you...these were the days before mass access to the Internet, so this stuff was not as easy to debunk when some nitwit on your team started making up stories.

    It also shows how at one point adidas not only could laugh at themselves a bit, but knew how to generate a bit of marketing buzz on their own without (poorly) copying Nike.
     
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  18. cadmonkey12

    cadmonkey12 Member

    Apr 3, 2009
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. derbyyank13

    derbyyank13 Member+

    Nov 8, 2008
    Niigata, Japan
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    On the point about copying Nike......................Anyone looked at the studs of the boots that Ronaldo was wearing, the blackout ones? Looks soooooooooooooo similar to the old adizero studs, originality my a**.

    I think they both copy each other all of the time.
     
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  20. ZAKI_TEPY_PL

    ZAKI_TEPY_PL Member

    Nov 16, 2014
    i wrote the same thing just as I saw them. and second thing is the "system" i Legend VI that looks like a idea similar to what we had in adiPure 11Pro III. Let's hope, that with a better result.

    Despite that I see far less things that Nike takes from adidas, and maaany that are the other way around. For example the Primemesh. You can think just one thing about them.
     
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  21. sleithelbizzle

    Sep 13, 2011
    Montrose
    Club:
    Aberdeen FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Can anyone comment on the durability of the Ace Primeknits on 3/4G surfaces. Looking to get the upcoming black/white/pink version but worried about the astro destroying the boot as I train twice a week on it. Or would I be better goin just for the Ace 15.1's.
     
  22. Pangu

    Pangu Member

    Jan 4, 2004
    Australia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Hey,
    I am commenting purely on the primeknit 2.0, but I have had no durability issues with the boots on the astro surfaces and I have worn them exclusively on those surfaces. From all I have read, the durability on primeknit is pretty spot on :)
     
  23. derbyyank13

    derbyyank13 Member+

    Nov 8, 2008
    Niigata, Japan
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    I agree with you for the most part.

    If we are being really honest they both copied Puma.....

    The Puma V1.06 Comes to mind as does the Puma Icana boot. They were both somewhat knitted. Especially the V1.06s.

    The big three copy each other. It's happened for years
     
  24. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Oh I agree 100% on design aspects. Nike takes concepts other companies developed before them, "perfects" (according to them) the concepts and implements. On the same side, they do things that are original too.

    I was referring more to marketing and the 10,000 foot view of brand direction. At the moment adidas have better footwear in terms of performance, but their marketing of said products is poor and they have lost too much ground trying to be like Nike in the past few years. It's getting better, but the hole is deep and muddy.
     
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  25. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Shudoah (sp) too...we can even go back to the Kevlar Puma boots from the 90's being woven. Diadora had the collars (low and mid) back then too.
     
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