So, Virginia, Duke and North Carolina all finished tied for third in the ACC at 4-3 in conference games. What is the tie-breaker to determine who finishes where? I assume the first tie-breaker is head-to-head play but that’s no help as North Carolina beat Virginia (2-1), UVa beat Duke (3-2) and the Dookies beat Carolina (3-2). What’s next? Regardless, whoever gets the third place slot will play No. 6 NC State, and the other two teams will play each other as the 4 and 5 seeds. Top seeded Wake Forest will play No. 8 Virginia Tech and No. 2 Maryland faces seven-seed Clemson. The games are Wednesday @ Cary, NC. Here are the final standings, though 3-5 aren't actually settled, just listed alphabetically. TEAM ------ACC W-L-T ----OVERALL Wake Forest -- 5-2 -- 12-4-1 Maryland -- 4-2-1 -- 13-4-1 Duke -- 4-3 -- 14-4-0 North Carolina -- 4-3 -- 9-7-2 Virginia -- 4-3 -- 14-4 NC State -- 2-4-1 -- 8-7-2 Clemson -- 2-5 -- 8-8-1 Virginia Tech -- 2-5 -- 9-9-1 Wake, Maryland, Duke and UVa would appear to be OK for an NCAA bid. North Carolina may need one more win, though their Strength of Schedule is pretty good. State probably needs to make the final to get an at-large bid and Clemson and Tech need to win it all to get in.
From theacc.com: ACC Championship Seeding Procedure Seeding for the championship will be determined by the regular season standings, utilizing a point system (win = three points, tie = one point). Ties for any seeded position will be broken as follows: 1. Head-to-head conference game results. 2. Goal differential in games between tied teams (goals for, minus goals against). 3. Goals scored in conference games only (maximum award of three per game). 4. Blind draw. So I think it goes down to #3. Unfortunately I don't have time to go through and tally that up, but we'll find out when the pairings are announced tomorrow or Tuesday. Looks like it will be a pretty intense tourney. I'm looking forward to it.
Thanks for looking that up and posting it. Get this: All three teams scored 11 goals in ACC play! However, UNC scored four today against Clemson, and if I'm interpreting the above statement correctly, the most you can count per game is three so technically, UNC only has 10. So, assuming that's correct and UNC is one goal behind, the question becomes, is their a coin-flip between Duke and UVa or does UVa's win over Duke give them the edge? BTW, here are the goals per game in ACC games for the three teams. DUKE Clemson - 1-0 Maryland - 2-1 UNC - 3-2 Tech - 0-1 State - 0-1 UVa - 2-3 Wake - 3-2 NORTH CAROLINA UVa - 2-1 Duke - 2-3 Maryland - 0-1 Tech - 2-1 State - 1-0 Wake - 0-2 Clemson - 4-1 VIRGINIA Wake - 2-1 UNC - 1-2 State - 2-1 Clemson - 2-1 Duke - 3-2 Tech - 1-2 Maryland - 0-1 Unbelievable how even they are.
Wake Forest 5-2-0 12-4-1 Maryland 4-2-1 13-4-1 North Carolina 4-3-0 9-7-2 Virginia 4-3-0 14-4-0 Duke 4-3-0 14-4-0 NC State 2-4-1 8-7-2 Clemson 2-5-0 8-8-1 Virginia Tech 2-5-0 9-9-1
here are the pairings from the ACC website: pairings Code: Wednesday, Nov. 10 Match 1: No. 1 Wake Forest vs. No. 8 Va. Tech Noon Match 2: No. 4 Virginia vs. No. 5 Duke 2:30 p.m. Match 3: No. 2 Maryland vs. No. 7 Clemson 5:30 p.m. Match 4: No. 3 North Carolina vs. No. 6 NC State 8:00 p.m. Friday, Nov. 12 Match 5: Semifinal 1 5:30 p.m. Match 6: Semifinal 2 8:00 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 14 Match 7: Championship Game (televised on Fox SportsNet, CSN and Sunshine) 1:00 p.m.
That Virginia-Duke game should be a doozy. And, this is the third year in a row that UNC-State have played in the first round with each team advancing once. Both teams deparately need to advance if they want to go to the NCAAs so this should be a nasty game. (Maybe Marcus Story will decide to finally score against an ACC team for the first time in two years.) Wake and Maryland should be favored against Tech and Clemson but in this tournament, no one is safe.