AC Milan official transfer, rumor, and speculation thread 9

I will be all on board with the made in milanello era. But we must bring back gourcuff.

flamini-gourcuff partnership is the new generation's gattuso-pirlo.

considering what we have now, and bringing back players we own, I think we will still have a great team capable of winning big things.

2009-2010 season

GK - abbiatti

Defenders - antonini, zambrotta, silva, antonelli, bonera, janks, darmian, astori, marchetti, kaladze, nesta, (please send sanderos back). I would say that if we purchase a -good/potential to be great - cb we could be set in this department.

Midfielders - flamini, abate, gattuso, gourcuff, pirlo, becks, ambro, cardaccio. (dont know if seedorf will be sticking around for another season)

Attackers - pato, borriello, kaka, dinho, viudez, di gennaro, paloschi.

Maybe another attacker and we send one of viudez, di gennaro or paloschi on loan. Its a good looking squad, imo and definately deeper and much better than the one we currently have.

I think in terms of starting 11 we can have multiple competitive line ups

--------abbiati
antonini-silva-bonera-antonelli(surely he is a better option than favalli)
--abate-flamini-gourcuff
------dinho-kaka
----------pato

------------abbiati
zambrotta-kaladze-new cb-janks
-----gattuso-pirlo-becks
----------kaka/dinho
--------borriello-pato

with the bench actually having players that you can send on in situations that require fresh attacking legs/defensive legs- borriello, palsochi, di gennaro, viudez, gattuso/flamini/ambro. This could be a good thing. We actually have a pretty good team here. Certainly better than the one that won the 07 CL on paper at least.

The first formation also highlights our formation of the future/near future and it is actually a very good line-up. Possibly slightly weaker on the wing back options, but i think antonini can grow in that spot, I dont know enough about antonelli but we still have janks and zambrotta until then.

I think our team can have an excellent mixture of youth and experience for the 2009-2010 season. Definately better than our current squad. And I have said this before, we are a couple signings away from being a really good team.

2010-2011 season and beyond.

If we get a new center back worthy of milan and consider how our formation would look like in the 2010-2011 season and beyond our team of the future can become the team of the present, and a very good one.

-----------abbiati
antonini-silva-new cb-antonelli
-----abate-flamini-gourcuff
------------kaka
-------paloschi-pato

 

jpick, for the most part i was comparing squads not starting 11s. Yes our starting cb pair were probably the best in europe in that year, and no, we probably wont have that with silva and the new cb.

I agree that we need to buy possibly two new cbs, that are worthy of starting for our team, and while no partnership can be as immense as nesta and maldini, we cant get held back in the past any longer. If we wait for another pair like that to show up, its not going to happen any time soon. While bonera and silva and the new cb's may not form a partnership that will strike fear into strikers all around europe, they will certainly be effective enough to get the job done. And let not forget that Abbiati is much, much better than Dida. Even in 07.

But to counter this "downgrade" in defense, we can talk about the upgrade in attack. gila, kaka, seedorf and inzaghi out of which gila sucked horribly. Dinho is/can be an upgrade to seedorf, pippo is pretty much the same and we replace gila with borriello and pato. The addition of pato itself is a massive upgrade to that attack.

And on astori and antonelli, i cant say that i have seen enough of them, or even at all, their ability to show that hunger itself is a massive improvement. Will be of no use in Europe, but in Italy, it could be massive. And lets not forget that we still have zambrotta and janks to show up for the european games and a host of other experienced masters as well.

alright yes, but look at man united, they are slowly moving their youth in to the squad like the rafael, evans, etc. No one is suggesting that we discard everything and start over, but moving them into the squad slowly is the only way they can provide a contribution. And we need that contribution. Lets also not forget, defenders tend to mature much later than other players.

 

for europe our starting 11 and bench is really all that matters. would you be so sure to discount this line up for the 09-10

--------------abbiati
-----zambrotta-silva-bonera-janks
abate/becks-flamini/gattuso-gourcuff/pirlo
------------kaka---dinho
----------------pato

The midfield being interchangeble with whoever is in the best form. with borriello on the bench for attack and three midfield players and difference makers as well.

central defence may be weaker, zambrotta certainly is an upgrade over oddo who did fine but nothing spectacular and janks having 2 years on himself.

however, our attack is most certainly much stronger than in 07 and we have more options in midfield.

On the whole, starting 11 and bench i would say that this team is better than in 07. At least on paper.

 

Your realism is killing my buzz.

haha. yeah, while you are probably right, I am always optimisitic for the next season. I blame the 07 CL. If this team didnt perform miracles, I wouldnt believe in miracles.

 

Gourcuff is AM behind the 2 strikers. He would be a waste at CM. It either sell him or sell Ronaldinho.

I would sign Cigarini, Agger, Santacroce or Zapata (maybe 2 out of 3), Taiwo or Zhirkov, and a tall, mobile CF in the mold of Berbatov or Zlatan and that would be a successful transfer window.

 

"dentinho, lenny, paulo henrique"

He is definitely better than those. He has excellent positioning, acceleration , good technique, composure in front of the keeper and shot accuracy.He is also stronger than his height may suggest, just like Pato. He was one of the three top goalscorers of Brasileirao 2008 ( yup, three players were tied in number of goals at the end of the tourney... The catch is that Keirrison was playing for a medium-small team that was on the Serie B in 2007 while Kleber Pereira and Washington were on two of the biggest clubs in Brazil) and he was chosen as the best youngster of the tourney. His weakness is that he likes to stay in the box , so he needs to be 'fed' by his teammates.... And that's why I think he would do well with Pato.

He likes to read books and is a very bright kid.

In 2009 he has a better than 1 goal per match ratio for Palmeiras, 13 goals in 11 matches or something like that. He plays like he was there for years , even tho he just arrived at the club. He is a good penalty taker and has a good FK as well. He is also two footed.

Comparing him to Pato, I would say that Keirrison is the better CF , while Pato is the better SS. Together they would rock.... Keirrison would complement Pato very well. Plus he is called K9... You would have a Duck and Dog partnership upfront >_>

Every goal that he scored in 2008
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3JjUEwaQ6o"]YouTube - Todos os gols de Keirrison pelo Coritiba no Brasileirão 2008[/ame]


His first 12 goals for Palmeiras

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPT0Dl0qhck"]YouTube - Gols de Keirrison / K9 pelo Palmeiras[/ame]

 

I edited a few things >_>

 

Neevveerrrrr!!

 

Welll .. I said that Keirrison needs to be 'fed' by his teammates... Now that I think about it it makes more sense than I thought

 

Didnt Milan sign another CB along with Silva in Jan?

 

Felipe Mattioni is who Im talking about I see he's just on loan here though.

 

guys an you help me with my research on who many times ACM has met ManU and how many times they played each other.

 

so all of a sudden we are being heavily linked with maxwell from inter...with quotes from both ancelotti and maxwell's agent. i didnt think there was any truth in the rumors but it looks like he could deffinately be here next season. lol we do have a couple of former inter players that have turned out alright...for example seedorf, pirlo, favalli. (lol just kidding about the favalli part)...

what do you guys think about this?

 

anyone?

 

i do know that Manchester United has never beaten Milan in a two legged Champions League tie.

the times I remember playing them were the last two times. 07 and 05.

In 05 we won both games by a single goal. (Crespo scored both)

In 07 we lost the first game 3-2 and won the second 3-0.

 

1958
Semi-Final Man United - AC Milan 2-1, 0-4 (2-5)

1969
Semi-Final Man United - AC Milan 0-2, 1-0 (1-2)

2005
2nd Round Man United - AC Milan 0-1, 0-1 (0-2)

2007
Semi-Final Man United - AC Milan 3-2, 0-3 (3-5)