But how is that any different than Bayern paying $13.5 million for Alphonso Davies and playing him in 3. Liga until he's ready to step up? To use an American example where is last year's top MLB first round draft pick Casey Mize? Answer, he's playing for the Tigers' affiliate in the Florida State League.
Except when you (in another thread) call for a U-23 team in MLS explicitly so that young player can get more playing time.
u-23 does not = draft picks. the mechanism works in closed-loop sports like NFL, NBA, MLB - where the pool of players available to players is open to be drafted all-inclusive and finite. college players are STRUGGLING to make a mark in MLS these days and make any headway whatsoever. They could benefit from being able to have some say in which MLS team they sign for (if any)..... Parity will not be impacted at all if the draft goes away... but college players might acutally have a better chance of sticking with an MLS team if they are more empowered and have a say in the process of what team they sign for. All that said, we haven't even mentioned homegrowns - I personally think they should be able to pick their MLS team as well....just as all other soccer leagues in the world do it. Let all players pick which team they sign for - and more players - draft picks, homegrowns, free agents, etc - will flourish. this is about MLS being better for its players. which will, in turn, be better for MLS. nothing else.
You mean like how Jordan Morris picked the team he wanted to sign for? Once the league abandons home grown territories players will be able to avoid the draft by signing home-grown contracts. That's assuming they haven't been in a club's academy system.
True, and well deserved. he was quite good this year. But, just spit-balling here, if there had been no draft, as a DU product couldn't he have ended up with the Rapids and had the exact same season?
Most rookie of the years will come out of the draft. Home Grown players are usually ineligible since by the time they have a breakout season they have already been professionals for a year or more. As soon as they get playing time in USL/sign a pro contract they are ineligible for the rookie of the year award the year they typically breakout. This is why Brendon Arronson, was not eligible for the award this season, and Austin Trusty and Mark McKenzie weren't eligible last season.
I'm going to say something kind of shocking here. I think MLS needs to drop the draft to 2 rounds for a couple of years, then when they get to 30 teams dump the draft. But in its place they should establish another "allocation ranking" style list that's for graduated college players. Everyone gets one pick and can move up (or down) the ranking if teams in front of them pass or if they want to trade rankings. Essentially reduce it to a one round draft but not everyone has to participate. That will cover whatever immediate value is still available coming out of college.
But what would SKC trade away? I mean, seriously, the third and fourth round picks were just announced. These are clearly for, at best, USL sides. It's kind of unfair to have top league sides draft for their second sides. I can't imagine that, for instance, SKC wouldn't be just as able to sign the talent they hope to develop in an open market. I guess it's closer to baseball, with a few players who make it seem more like the NBA or NFL.
heres an article that i agree a lot with...not sure if i totallly buy the slotting system discussed but I think it behooves the NCAA teams to push for the draft to go away for the benefit of themselves as a legit pathway to pro https://www.forbes.com/sites/ianqui...ually-an-argument-against-the-mls-superdraft/ never have I argued that there isnt talent in college or in the draft!! i just think the rules on how that talent gets into MLS need to change...(become more free with player empowerment)
But soccer players have more control than players in other sports. They can join a MLS academy, a USL team, go directly to Europe or go to college where they can enter the draft after their freshman year. Dike chose college over joining MLS directly. Buchanan chose college over Toronto FC because he wanted to follow his coach. Both have got transfers to Europe within 3 years of being drafted. Morris is another who was at Seattle when he chose to go to Stanford. He rejoined Seattle before graduating. He's chosen to stay at Seattle when he could probably get a lucrative move to Europe.
not sure what your point is. american athletes have more control in soccer? or soccer players globally have more control than other global sports? regardless soccer players in the us dont have enough control ask miles robinson, bello, acosta, arriola, etc if they think they have enough control even beyond them....which is actually more salient...how many matt turners and tajon buchanons never saw the light of day professionally bc they wound up on the wrong club to get them exposure? MLS will make more money in transfers if they dont force players to submit to a draft mechanism getting rid of the draft will give amateur players the control they need to make the best decision for their future and miximize chances of success the whole parity angle of a draft - which is essentially the main reason to have a draft - is non-existent in todays MLS
I'm not sure what you mean. Acosta signed a contract in 2019. He's on a 7 figure salary and will be a free agent if he chooses at the end of the season. Robinson will be a free agent at the end of next year. Darren Eales has said that Bello will move to Europe when the "right offer" comes along. How is this different to foreign leagues? Not sure what's happening with Arriola. Has he hinted he's unhappy? He left Liga MX to join MLS on a 7 figure salary and signed a contract extension in 2020.
high compensation relative to historical norms in MLS doesnt address the issue of allowing players to go to higher level competition when they are ready for it. arriola wasnt allowed to leave. same with acosta. both wanted to. this isnt about how much relative control MLS players have or not....and it definitely isnt about salaries mitigating a lack of control! the draft as a mechanism requires amateur players to give up more control than they do in any other soccer league with worse outcomes across the board. msl teams are passsing on picks and most drafted players fail to stick in the MLS.... again....ending the draft will empower those players who need empowerment....the ones who dont have much power in the current setup even well compensated ones like arriola and acosta are not being best served....but the ones lower down the totem pole have it 10 times worse
End of next season (his contract has a team option year for 2023) Acosta came through Dallas' youth academy, was signed as a homegrown player, and then signed a contract extension with Colorado. He wanted to go to Europe, tough. He agreed to a contract and the team will decide if they want to (trade/sell) him until the end of that contract, not the player. This is exactly how it works everywhere in the world. The draft has nothing to do with it.
If players are under contract they can't leave without the agreement of both parties. This is no different to any other league. In UEFA players are free agents at 23. In MLS its now 24.
MLS needs to relax its player controls a bit including not forcing college players to go through a draft let them sign with any team and regualte it with a slotting system a la MLB if you have to
MLS is shooting itself in the foot by not letting players like Miles Robinson go i thought they had it figured out with the recent openness to selling but some clubs are still stubborn MLS is a feeder league if it doesnt want to be a feeder league...then get rid of the salary cap
It's up to Darren Eales at Atlanta, not MLS. Robinson signed a four year contract in 2019. What don't you understand about contracts? College players don't have to go through a draft. Example: Jordan Morris.
i understand what is the law... go back to when miles was in college and then ask is this path hes on the best one he couldve been on? he had to go through a draft...which hasnt helped him get to where he could be as fast as possible time will tell if his career arc is hampered by that...but good chance yes
No team let's every player go just because they get an offer for that player.. Every team has a value in mind for offers that they'll accept and every team has a value they are willing to pay to get a player. It is entirely okay for teams to not come to an agreement over that price...