A way to raise salary budget, maintain parity & cost nothing to low spenders

It should be 19 to 1.

 

If you want to raise the cap, just raise the cap. This convoluted system might make sense in any other North American sports league, but when each owner pays |(Total League Salaries - DP contracts + $350k*Number of DPs)/19|, this will do practically nothing

 

Your ideas were crap as PC4th ... Vevo5 has done nothing to freshen things up.

Also, luxury tax type things still suck.

 

why on earth would you want to force parity? If it happens organically then fine.

yeah....lets make every team weaker so they are all mediocre. This is an NFL way of looking at the global game.

 

Yeah, and why on earth would you want to emulate the most successful sports league on the planet? If success happens organically then fine.

 

If you want to see the BPL model, then follow the BPL. The last thing MLS needs is someone pulling the NASL's mistakes back from the past

 

No, no memes. Man up and answer the man.

You say "why try to do things like the NFL".

The response was "Because the NFL is the most successful sports League in the world; why would we do anything else?"

Now be a man and answer him

 

How about the CFL isn't that the same model as the NFL? Why are they not the second most successful league in the world?

 

You didn't answer the question either.

 

The CFL Salary Cap is only 5 years old. And it's not even a hard cap like the NFL

 

Well it was not asked to me, plus MLS should follow the NFL model, the thing is depending on many factors MLS may look like the NFL or it may end up like the CFL in relation to World soccer.

The NFL model is great for big countries with big economies like ours, so I think Cosmo Kid is crazy to not want to follow that model.

But It seem to me that you and other people around this parts think the NFL model is gospel and every other league should do the same, but the NFL model would probably not work in many leagues around the world. (I think it would in German, China, even Brazil).

 

Not at all, but I don't understand denigrating MLS for following the lead of not only the most successful sports league in their market, but the most successful sports league in the world.

The same reason pro/rel wouldn't work here id the reason some of the NFL's structure wouldn't work in Germany (for example). But MLS isn't in Germany, its here and what works well for the NFL here is likely to work well for MLS here.

 

I agree to that (Even if I do not like it) MLS should follow NBA, NFL, NHL model because they work in the USA, it makes perfect business sense.

My issue is that NFL is the biggest league in the world not only because of the model, but because it is the king of sports in the huge USA market (helped by the model to over take the MLS model), the NFL would not be the biggest league in the world if they were playing in a market the size of Canada, that is why I used the CFL.

The NFL model in Spain would probably mean Barcelona and Real Madrid no longer winning any Champions League titles. So there are more factors than just the model.

I mean College Football as a Business is surely top 10 in terms of total revenue, yet their cost control model is hard to replicate.

 

But the largest league in Canada uses the NFL model

 

different sports.

you can't say just because the NFL is a very successful league that if MLS copies the salary cap rules and the league structure it will also be successful.

Not to mention American football is not a global game and soccer is. MLS competes with other CONCACAF teams on the field and competes on the global market for players. The NFL model is not a successful model for the global game. Only people who view soccer through this narrow American viewpoint believe it is.

Also..the NFL is not the most watched sports league in the world. I guess there are different ways to measure success. But if we were just going by which sports league that was the most watched globally that would be the EPL.

so yeah anytime someone responds with "Because the NFL is the most successful sports League in the world; why would we do anything else?" if they deserve a response at all it's the *face palm*

 

so ? There are three other sports in America that also use the system or variety of it. They also are all in the top 10 most successful sports leagues in the world.

... and nobody has. The question is about modeling the league structure after the NFL, not copying it exactly.

I guess we can just chalk this up to you and your narrow soccer viewpoint eh ?

What exactly does all of that have to do with the price of a box seat in NE ?

How do you know the NFL model isn't a successful model for a global game ? The soccer league most like an American structured league is also the one with the most fans piling in, cheapest (relative to popularity of the league) tickets, and has the most overall fan enjoyment .... the Bundesliga.

Weird huh ?

He didn't say most watched. He said most successful. Which, it is.

How is that any different than the multitude of morons that answer "because that's how they do it everywhere else" when asked why we should adopt pro/rel ? At least the NFL model is relevant to our game, league, country, and sports environment.

 

I just don't think it's a good rule for anyone. For the team seeking to increase the cap, I think this rule makes it prohibitively expensive. In your example, if I follow it correctly it would cost the team $1,080,000 million in order to get $270,000 more to spend above the cap. In other words, for every quarter they increase payroll, it would cost a dollar.

And I don't think many teams would be anxious to spend $1 million even if they didn't have to pay such a premium. Only 13 or 14 designated players have made more than $1 million since the inception of the rule -- and here that million dollars gets a player who is a fraction of that quality or name recognition. The tax is simply too great.

Nor does the money -- $42,632 in your example -- do very much for any single one of the other teams because it's being sliced too thinly. Honestly, they probably make as much selling nachos.

The rule is prohibitively expensive to add payroll, but at the same time it won't help the other teams very much.

They'd be better off to just directly tie spending to revenues so that as revenues grow spending for every club must grow too IMO.

 

No.

Because there's only 34 million people in Canada. Mostly.

 

Who to believe?

Actually is not exactly the same model, but is a similar Salary control model.

That is my point. The NFL model in say Honduras would not create the biggest sports league in the world. So it is a combination of factors of why the NFL is the biggest sports league in the world the Revenue sharing model is one of them (an important one).

 

There are a myriad of reasons why the NFL is the most popular and successful sports league in the world, reasons that would take pages and pages to go into fully.

The CFL uses some elements of the NFL model, but doesn't operate in the same environment. Simply by virtue of doing things the way the NFL does couldn't make them the NFL any more than doing things the way they're done in England or Spain would make MLS the BPL or La Liga just like that.

 

HTTK stole my thunder

 

The largest League in Canada is the NHL, not the CFL.

 

Not by average attendance