Season ticket holder gift from a not small club The season ticket gift pic.twitter.com/IFS6lgFKHc— Jeremy Miller (@jeremyd_miller) September 3, 2024
One advantage of being a fan of a bottom-dweller: lower likelihood that the team will send out dustcatchers that take up space and serve no useful purpose. (A wooden spoon would be useful!)
If the San Jose Earthquakes end up “winning” the MLS Wooden Spoon this season (a distinct possibility, even though it hasn’t officially happened yet), this is what the all-time Wooden Spoon “winners” list will look like : ------------------------------------------------------- Though FC Cincinnati finished the 2020 season with the league's worst record, no MLS Wooden Spoon was officially awarded due to the pandemic's changing and shortening of that season's schedule. ------------------------------------------------------- MLS Wooden Spoons won (teams in bold no longer with us) 5 - San Jose Earthquakes (1997, 2000, 2008, 2018, 2024) 4 - D.C. United (2002, 2010, 2013, 2022) 3 - Chicago Fire FC (2004, 2015, 2016) 3 - Toronto FC (2007, 2012, 2023) 2 - FC Cincinnati (2019, 2021) 2 - New York Red Bulls (1999, 2009) 1 - C.D. Chivas USA (2005) 1 - CF Montréal (2014) 1 - Colorado Rapids (1996) 1 - Columbus Crew (2006) 1 - FC Dallas (2003) 1 - Los Angeles Galaxy (2017) 1 - New England Revolution (1998) 1 - Tampa Bay Mutiny (2001) 1 - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (2011) 0 - Atlanta United FC 0 - Austin FC 0 - Charlotte FC 0 - Houston Dynamo FC 0 - Inter Miami CF 0 - Los Angeles FC 0 - Miami Fusion F.C. 0 - Minnesota United FC 0 - Nashville FC 0 - New York City FC 0 - Orlando City SC 0 - Philadelphia Union 0 - Portland Timbers 0 - Real Salt Lake 0 - Seattle Sounders FC 0 - Sporting Kansas City 0 - St. Louis CITY SC GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
All this tells me based on the date, the Chicago Fire are next in line to win the spoon followed by DC United and then a random team and back to us.
They should give out replica wooden spoons to the first 1000 fans the last home game of the year. The museum would love them.
I have an even better idea. We fans should buy 1,000 wooden spoons, engrave them with #FisherOut and hand them out at a game. Unless of course they got confiscated at the gate. Well, maybe it would work if they were the size of wooden teaspoons.
If you asked a thousand fans entering the PayPal Park main gate if they knew the significance of The Wooden Spoon, over 900 would be clueless.
Well, you would just say a simple, “the wooden spoon is our prize for being last in MLS. And we now have the most wooden spoons ever.” I guess I should start pricing and sourcing these spoons…
I asked this is in tomorrow’s Vancouver game thread, it maybe it is better here… So as of today Fri the 13th, we have played 27 of 34 games, or 7 games left. We are 9 pts behind the next lowest teams. So I guess there is a possibility we could move out of last place. is there a betting site that shows running odds on the quakes coming in last? Maybe I could place my wooden spoon order if we got to 95% odds by Sept-22
It's really really hard to make up 9 points in 7 games. First of all we'd have to win a minimum of 3 games in 7, and our win rate is 5 in 27. And then the teams we are 9 points behind would have to get 0 points, almost an impossibility. I would guess that our odds of winning wooden spoon are around 98%.
thx for the guess, but I’d like to see what a betting site says, as I assume they will have an algorithm doing the calcs based on what each team does each week. There are so many betting sites, I didn’t know where to look. And I didn’t want to search them and end up with a ton of betting ads in my browser I figured someone here knows the answer first hand
I don't think you understand what betting sites are trying to do. They're not full of analysts who are using complex formulas to predict the future. They make money off each bet so they want to set the odds in such a way that 50% of the money is being bet on one side and 50% is being bet on the other side. If 90% of the money is bet one way and those people win, the betting site loses. So for example if the Yankees were terrible and sabermetric projections systems had them winning just 60 games next season, but they had a large rabid fanbase that was betting on them to win like 90 games, betting sites would set the line close to the 50/50 point so maybe like 85 wins. All they are there to do is minimize their own risk and ensure they make money.
I guess I’ve been listening to too many insurance podcasts, where reinsurers are using analytics to make better underwriting decisions. I decided that reinsurance is basically gambling. But I guess sports betting is more about selling to an emotional risk-inviting market?
From what little I have heard, a lot of insurance segments are combining traditional actuarial methods with machine learning to improve estimates of incident risk, particularly with respect to stuff like natural disasters / climate change where traditional insurers (and presumably their reinsurers) are scared to offer coverage because they simply have no idea how bad the worst case scenarios are. I think they have very different (conservative) mindsets from gamblers....unless you want to make the banal observation that any sector based on probabilistic estimates shares that aspect in common with gambling.
Yeah after the 2017-2018 CA wildfires, the insurance industry has turned to property intelligence and insurtech / instech (Insurance tech) for risk analysis and process improvement in underwriting and claims. Lots of start ups.
“Everything has been a disaster.” Jeremy Ebobisse COOKING in the post game presser!!“Everything has been a disaster.”Says he doesn’t know whether he or other players will stay in San Jose next season.https://t.co/9YaokLixH1 https://t.co/OcqUJBJjZ3— Alex Morgan (@alexosmorgan) September 22, 2024
To put the context around "says he doesn’t know whether he or other players will stay in San Jose next season", he was not implying that guys want out. It's because it's not up to them (and they probably don't even know for sure who the decision makers will be). He implied that's to be expected when a team has a terrible season. There will be changes. Possibly many changes.
These guys are basically saying don't waste your money on season tickets, Quakes are a lost cause. "Nobody cares."
Who are “these guys”? As for Jebo mostly he feels bad about how badly the season’s gone. Feels bad for the fans. And they know that when you have a season this bad, changes are coming, and so they know their future with the team is uncertain. You can watch the Jebo postgame on The Aftershock to get the full context.
According to a guy on the TSS Discord, we may have secured the wooden spoon… except the Revs lost yesterday, so I’m waiting for him to reconfirm ———— Tim Hotze (@sing_electric) on X True #MLS sicko alert: A St. Louis W over San Jose tonight combined with wins by Chicago and New England makes the San Jose Earthquakes the 2024 MLS Wooden Spoon winners.