A sensible MLS-Mexican League "merger" plan

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by NASL Fan, Nov 23, 2003.

  1. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems to me MLS and the Mexican could only benefit from some synergy between their two operations. So here's a plan that would "merge" the leagues but preserve their integrity, a la the old NFL-AFL "merger."

    Have each team in both leagues play a certain amount of games each year (four, six?) against teams in the other league. Those games would count in the MLS and Mexican league stadings, but each team would still have its own playoffs and championship games. At the end of the season (okay, so timing is a bit complicated) the winners of the two leagues (complicated again by the Mexican league's split season) would play a home and home "North American championship" or some such.

    Of course, the timing of all this would be complicated, but it seems like a good way of injecting a bit of the cash and lure of international soccer into the two leagues on a permanent basis. And I think the MLS teams would benefit by exposure to the intensity of Mexican league soccer (remember how Bruce Arena said the current MLS league structure produced too many meaningless games?).

    Discuss or flame as you wish.
     
  2. Fah Que

    Fah Que Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    LA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    ummm....not a bad idea really.

    I have a better proposal. Adapt baseball format and split the two leagues into American league and Mexican league just like national league and american league in baseball, except that there is never any interleague play ever. Baseball for the longest time has no interleague play either. And also there is no world series either. So the two leagues are merged but never play against each other :D
     
  3. Tecos

    Tecos Member+

    Apr 8, 2003
    Chicago
    Club:
    Tecos UA de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    what makes it very difficult for me is that it would be very hard to get the MFL people to change everything unless there are HUGE profits to be made. Also the fact that in Mexico they can play year round while weather in some parts of this country makes it hard to do here.
     
  4. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And FIFA would find this acceptable because... ?
     
  5. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Let's not ruin the Liga Mexicana by doing this, por favor. It's the only quality league on the North American continent. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
     
  6. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    It's not gonna happen...

    At least not until it gets to point where the Mexican clubs start losing their fans to the MLS. But right now, there's just no reason for the MFL clubs to want to work together on something like this.
     
  7. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Uh, no. I'd prefer a league where diving and pretending to be hurt is frowned upon instead of the norm.
     
  8. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Does June 17th, 2002 ring a bell for you?

    Here's a reminder.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the dumbest post I have ever read.
     
  10. MLS3

    MLS3 Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    Pac NW
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh christ...what a topic, delete this please...
     
  11. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    once MLS has 14-16 teams, and at least 10 SSS, we can talk on a more equal footing (if we feel it makes both leagues better) In the meantime, no...
     
  12. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By definition, a MLS-MFL merger would never be sensible.
     
  13. In Mexico, 1 point or even goal difference can decide which team qualify for playoffs. It would be really unfair for a Mexican team if they have to play CHicago Fire at Chicago while a rival team in the same qualifying group gets Dallas Burns.
     
  14. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Are some of you aware that one of the reasons the NASL was not a FIFA sanctioned league was that they had teams from Canada in the league?

    There were other reasons too, but the fact that Canada had teams in the league was one of them.

    This is a bad idea.

    And really, MLS is eventually going to be better than MFL. Much better.
     
  15. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll join the chorus in the anti camp. We have inter-league competition in the CONCACAF Champions Cup, which admittedly is garbage now but maybe will improve in time. I think that's plenty. The more strong North American leagues the better.

    And yes, I'd also be in the let's get Canada their own league camp.
     
  16. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Line the right pockets and FIFA will find anything acceptable.
     
  17. Roehl Sybing

    Roehl Sybing Guest

    This is not even a valid question with me.
     
  18. Roehl Sybing

    Roehl Sybing Guest

    You don't understand. We're looking to undo the Mexican league.
     
  19. Hecho en Mexico

    Hecho en Mexico Member+

    Mar 22, 2002
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Hell no. This is about the stupidest idea ever, why dont you guys try to merge with a league from central america or canada instead?:D:p
     
  20. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    I doubt FIFA would allow this to happen, no matter who's pockets you lined.

    And there's no way MLS would want this to happen.
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alot of people used the same reasoning to argue that Freddy would end up with ManU or Real Madrid.

    They were wrong.
     
  22. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welsh teams play in the English league, and there was talk of Rangers and Celtic moving there too. And they're from three different FIFA members.

    I guess I posed the question intially because look where the European teams make their big money: in the Champions League. And realistically, you can't build something similar on this side of the pond with just two leagues (South America and the Libertadores are too faraway, and the Central American leagues will never have the money to develop the exceptional teams people will want to see play abroad.) So it makes sense in the long run, especially as MLS becomes more competitive, for the two leagues to find a way to work together. The Mexican league is probably the most affluent in the Americas right now...
     
  23. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Cadiff and who?

    And every team in the EPL is indeed English. Rangers and Celtic don't seem to be moving any time soon.

    The differnce between Wales and England is not quite as distinct as the difference between the USA and Mexico.

    As far as I know, the top three teams from the EPL, Serie A, the Spanish first division and the Bundesliga qualifiy automatically for the CL. Add to that only the top team from just about all the other Euro leagues. The number of European teams who play in the CL is probably less than 2%.

    More qualify for UEFA Cup, but still, even with that you're probably less than 5% of all pro teams in Europe. Teams make their money from fans coming to league games. Regardless, results from he CL and UEFA Cup have NOTHING to do with standings in the teams' domestic leagues.

    Finally you didn't say something a North American Champions League. You said an MFL / MLS merger.

    We already have CONCACAF Cup. That IS our version of the Champions League. Does it need to be improved? Hell yes, the thing is ridiculous, but as long as Jack Warner pulls the strings in CONCACAF, oh wait, sorry, The Football Confederation (or whatver the hell it's called now) you're going to see teams like Joe Public qualify every year.

    Again, we already have something like the CL where every federation in CONCACAF sends representative teams. I'm all for making that tournament better and more meaningful. That would have nothing to do with a "merger" between MLS and MFL.

    If you want CONCACAF results between MLS and MFL teams affect standings in each other's leagues, why limit it to those two? Why not add Costa Rica, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Trinida & Tobago, Jamiaca, etc etc? Then tell me your idea still makes sense.
     
  24. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cardiff City, Swansea, and Wrexham are the big 3, and there are others in the leagues below the conference. But their participation in the English pyramid goes back a long way, well before the establishment of the League of Wales.
     
  25. jsantarita

    jsantarita Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    This has been mentioned in the past. FIFA will not allow it. In Euriopa there has also been mention of merging scotland, holand portugal and other small countries. UEFA and fifa said...nyet.
    PLus it is obvious that the soccer quality in MLS is not evolving. If anything it is going down. They will just get clobbered by the Mexican teams. No good for MLS
     

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