A reminder from the Kraft family...

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by NHFootyFan, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. USRevolution2010

    USRevolution2010 New Member

    Oct 8, 2009
    Lowell
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I know. I assume that's the video they were talking about though, unless there was something else I missed.
     
  2. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They "spun" what they heard to make their point. It's called rhetoric ;)
     
  3. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With a shit load of money.
     
  4. KaptPowers

    KaptPowers Member

    Dec 29, 2003
    Arlington, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And thousands of Patriots fans... ;)
     
  5. jwoo

    jwoo Member

    Jul 30, 2008
    West Newton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that it isn't just a bitch fest. The only things I can really point at that I found concerning the first time I saw it was when Parky mumbled something about Kraft, and when Sharlie said that fans were not coming back because of what they are doing to the team. It seemed pretty clear that they have some issues with the FO or the owners.

    Who knows though, it may just be your usual grass must be greener elsewhere attitude that everyone gets when moving onto other things.
     
  6. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sports fans have dried up here before, and if Kraft's football team continues to trend towards where his soccer team is, Gillette will be half-empty before you know it.

    I think it's a useful thing to remember that. The soccer team is not unique in playing to near empty houses because they had zero buzz because good players were leaving town, the owner acted like an absentee landlord, and the town basically just gave up on them, except a handful of hardcore fans who continue to persist in calling WEEI.

    Anyone else remember scooting down at Red Sox games? It used to be a sport in and of itself to move down a few rows or a few dozen rows because no one was sitting there. Night games when I was growing up were sometimes very empty looking (I'm remembering one against the Angels in particular).

    We were joking in one thread or another about needing an owner like Drew Carey. It's probably true. Just getting a good owner at this point might not do the job. We need an owner who is basically a walking advertisement for the brand.
     
  7. Coach_Barry

    Coach_Barry Member

    Aug 18, 2001
    Taunton, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just for accuracy sake, Shalrie doesn't say anything about the Krafts. He says that he understands that fans are not coming back because of what the 'Revolution' are doing. He might mean the FO, the coaches or maybe just that the team hadn't been doing as well lately.
     
  8. neophilus

    neophilus Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    Methuen, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think for the most part the fans have already spoken. Attendance has been horrible. The core group of supporters will always be there because they love going to the games, making a lot of noise and rooting for the home team. Kraft wouldn't care if even less people showed up, they would probably give out free tickets to youth soccer leagues to keep attendance just high enough to not be laughed out of the league.

    The real question is how many 5k attendance home PLAYOFF games can you go through before you start dragging the image of MLS down? Sure it's easy to hide the numbers on a crappy broadcast on TV38 but when ESPN is picking the game up in HD and you show that crowed in a 60k plus stadium it has to be a little embarrassing.

    Actually what would make a statement is if everyone stopped going to Revs games and started going to Boston Breakers games. At least let the public know that the fans are there, they just switched allegiances.
     
  9. The Kilt

    The Kilt New Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Rossi
    i'm sorry, but if everyone stops going to revs games and goes to braaker games no one outside of these boards would notice cause the 99% of the people in this state don't know the breakers exist, while only about 75% don't know the revs exist.
     
  10. Mattymags811

    Mattymags811 Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Attleboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a season ticket holder for both teams, I resent this statement. It's not an either or, not with $200 Fort and $130 Dock.
     
  11. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hadn't realized the Revs tickets are actually cheaper on a per-game basis.
     
  12. KaptPowers

    KaptPowers Member

    Dec 29, 2003
    Arlington, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's about the size of it.

    Don't ask, I don't think we've seen the end of them. But, don't forget, they're "disappointed." But also don't forget they think that the low turnouts are due to "fan apathy" after 8 straight years of playoff appearances.

    insert Captain Picard facepalm pic....here.
     
  13. NHFootyFan

    NHFootyFan Member

    May 28, 2007
    Outside Concord NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    You asked for it, you got it....[​IMG]
     
  14. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there anything that can actually be done to save this sinking ship??

    anyone got a bilge pump??
     
  15. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New England fan and media love winners and great, feel good sports stories. Let this team make real noise in MLS like they did back when they made the unlikely stretch run to play in MLS Cup in the Razor and they will get press and a fill seats.
     
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  16. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree Doc..I was being a bit facetious..but Yes, exactly what you said!!

    I truly believe even the Football Snobs would turn and give us another look if the "atmosphere" were to change.

    Most easily recognize Nicol and his accomplishments as a player and respect him for that...They would also take note of him as a coach and the Revs as a team if he were to be allowed to act like a real manager. I totally believe that..
     
  17. NHFootyFan

    NHFootyFan Member

    May 28, 2007
    Outside Concord NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    This.

    There is not, I don't believe, another person actively involved with MLS with anything like the professional resume of Stevie Nicol:

    Four First Division championshipships
    Three FA Cups
    and, oh yeah, one Champions League trophy

    For that matter, no coach of any other Boston team has that kind of resume. Belichick played lacrosse at Wesleyan. Doc Rivers comes closest but...no

    If nothing ELSE, ffs, get him a sitdown with Bob Ryan locally. Ryan doesn't get soccer at one level, but he gets and loves *sports*, and hell, it wouldn't help to remind Simmons about his rules for being a sports supporter.
     
  18. NHFootyFan

    NHFootyFan Member

    May 28, 2007
    Outside Concord NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    This again.


     
  19. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a player yes. As a coach, I think I'll take Belichick's resume.
     
  20. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple of field goals and Belicheck's resume is the same as Nicols.
     
  21. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure no one puts "if this happened, I'd have failed" as part of their work history. Belichick has 3 Super Bowls. No ifs, ands, or buts.
     
  22. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heh, heh, Super Bowl... What a dumb name.
     
  23. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All I'm saying is that Nicol and Belicheck have done a lot with little. Belicheck just got lucky 3 times. Nicol not so much.
     
  24. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like it better than "World Series." :)
    Ah yes. Luck. Had nothing to do with the players actually making the plays they needed to, it was luck.

    BTW, since I can already see the comments coming ... yes, making the playoffs last year was luck to me. Here's the difference ... when you win a game, while luck can be involved (lucky bounce, etc) you still have to make the plays to beat that team. It's a lot more lucky to win a game (beating Columbus) and having 4 (or was it 3) other games ALL go in your favor (things you had no control over).
     
  25. Revs in 2010

    Revs in 2010 Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Roanoke, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luck definitely plays a part in all sports. How many times out of 100 does David Tyree manage to catch a ball by pinning it against his helmet (probably one). How many times has a player lying passed out on the sideline (David Patten) had a ball touch him, and thus be declared out of bounds, saving a turnover, how many refs would have interpreted Brady's play against Oakland as a fumble? These are all examples from the past decade that involved New England, I could go on for hours over the rest of sports.

    The truly great teams either win by enough that these types of breaks don't matter, or manage to find a way to overcome them, but the line between a champion and the Buffalo Bills can be pretty narrow.
     

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