A-League Attendance Week 8

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by kenntomasch, Jun 5, 2003.

  1. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. TheMutts

    TheMutts New Member

    May 19, 2002
    Pittsburgh
    only excuse I can give for Pittsburgh is that it was a Wednesday.
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'll add 1) the weather was crappy and 2) the Pirates were in town and playing the Red Sox for the first time in 100 years. But the front office has to be worrying about this.
     
  4. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    Looks like Indiana better start giving it's tickets away for free again.

    Yep that promotion sure worked.
     
  5. TheMutts

    TheMutts New Member

    May 19, 2002
    Pittsburgh
    Yep, looks like Krammerhead was right again :)


    so we got: Cincinnaiti, El Paso, Indiana. all who cant draw anyone.
     
  6. foosball

    foosball New Member

    May 1, 2003
    Blast

    You guys are looking at a single bad game to prove a point that is not supported by the numbers.If you follow Kenn's link, you will find the Blast in the middle of the A-League pack(11th out of 19).Not bad for a squad that hasn't won a game and competes with a very popular AAA Baseball team and a growing WNBA franchise for fannies in the seats.This doesn't even factor in scarce ticket $ which may already be committed to our "major "sports-Pacers and Colts.Ours may not be a model franchise, but don't lump us in with the bottom feeders in terms of community support.
     
  7. TheMutts

    TheMutts New Member

    May 19, 2002
    Pittsburgh
    looking at Kenns numbers there are some encouraging things. It has gone up over the years.

    If we could just get Cinncinaiti and Calgary to draw people everyone would be fairly ok. I think Charlotte, Va Beach and El Paso can and would pick up if the managment kept trying.
     
  8. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Blast

    True. 438 for a crappy Tuesday night in the A-League is absolutely not indicative of much other than it was a crappy Tuesday night in the A-League. Indiana is usually better than a lot of teams when all is said and done (at least in announced numbers...I'm told maybe 150 people were there Tuesday), but has traditionally struggled midweek, as have many other franchises.

    There are some teams that can draw well during the week (Portland, relatively, being one of them...I know you're disappointed sometimes, but, jeez, it's A-League soccer, look at the established norms for crowds in the league outside Rochester), and Indiana isn't one of them. But as long as the league insists on playing more fixtures than there are weekends, weekday games are inevitable.

    All that being said, the opening night giveaway was not a particularly good idea. The jury is still out on how effective it was, and I wouldn't use Tuesday night as an indicator. But I doubt it will end up having done much except cost them money without much benefit.
     
  9. Timbers_Roberto

    Timbers_Roberto New Member

    Jul 27, 2002
    Portland, Oregon
    Re: Blast

    You also should consider that the numbers are inflated with the 3,987 that showed up for the freebie first game. Consider that game out and the Tuesday night game as aberations and you still aren't getting more than 2,000 per game. Better than some, but not as good as that market could draw in my opinion.
     
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe. I worked for that club, and I think there's an upside, but it's not a Portland-sized upside.

    There are those who have issues with management, and had the proposed stadium in the suburbs happened, I think they would have done better (not a magical doubling or anything, like they were leading people to believe).

    I think a properly-run club in a better stadium situation could do 3,000 a night in actual attendance, maybe. They're not doing anywhere near their announced numbers.
     
  11. rhinofan14468

    rhinofan14468 New Member

    May 12, 2003
    hilton ny
    attendance

    rhino game for sat looks like another rain game attendence will be down again so far 4 home games and its been rain and cold for all.
     
  12. Paul Schmidt

    Paul Schmidt Member

    Feb 3, 2001
    Portland, Oregon!
    Kenn,

    I know that the "Boise" CBA team keeps a very strong track of who purchases tickets from Boise and who buys in their venue in "suburban" Canyon County. Awfully easy when most tickets are bought on cards because tickets are just barely expensive enough... at least for the good seats.

    Were you able to get that kind of information with the Blast? I'm concerned that, depending on certain factors that don't exist for Boise basketball but might exist for potentially suburban Portland soccer (curse the thought, but keep an eye on ownership), suburban locations are generally not the best idea.
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The location in question that they were going to build a stadium in was only quasi-suburban, as it was right off the interstate that loops around the city. Indianapolis is great because you can get just about anywhere in the metro area (when it's not rush hour) in about 20-25 minutes. The location they were planning would have been within easy access of most of the population of Indianapolis, a much nicer location (at least reputation-wise) than the place they play now, and right smack in the middle of the single biggest youth soccer park in the metro area. It would have done just fine. But it won't get built now.

    We had a great database guy. Only problem was, the powers that be (and were) had their own ideas about what information to ask, and from whom, and so the information to which you refer, which I wanted to get, was in short supply as most of the day-to-day energies were spent just trying to stay alive.
     
  14. rhinohool

    rhinohool New Member

    Jan 31, 2003
    Rochester
    rhinofan, what are you talking about. Saturday is supposed to be the nice day, with the rain staying along the coast... 75 as a high
     
  15. scudley

    scudley New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Syracuse, NY
    syracuse is playing at a high school this weekend... I think they are only selling up to 5000 tickets - with 1000 of those people sitting/standing on the lawn/track.
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From their website:

    So four of their fourteen home games will be at this facility. Adjust accordingly when you make your predictions for the rest of the season.
     
  17. foosball

    foosball New Member

    May 1, 2003
    Promotions

    For Krammerhead:An update from the Blast Promotions Dept.
    Sat. 6-7 vs. Calgary is "White Castle Tailgate Night".If you aren't familiar with them, White Castle is famous for tiny hamburgers generally eaten by the sackful in the wee hours after a night on the town and known to produce combustible energy that our Government is still trying to harness.And yes, they are giving them away(but you have to actually buy a ticket!).
     
  18. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    See, now thats a good promotion.
     
  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Started it in '99, I believe. It's only a few hundred of them, it's not like it's going to pack the house.

    But I'll be there. First game back since the 2002 opener.
     
  20. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Toronto @ Montréal: 6,872; loud and boistrous, looked like more.
     
  21. Krammerhead

    Krammerhead Guest

    Caught the end of the post game interviews on CBC french, and the place still looked like it had plenty of people in there.
     
  22. Timbers_Roberto

    Timbers_Roberto New Member

    Jul 27, 2002
    Portland, Oregon
    Charleston @ Syracuse Attendance: 4 297

    Toronto @ Montreal Attendance: 6 872

    Richmond @ Charlotte Attendance: 654

    Atlanta @ VA Beach Attendance: 2 565

    Calgary @ Cincinnati Attendance: ?
     
  23. TheMutts

    TheMutts New Member

    May 19, 2002
    Pittsburgh
    Va Beach is suprising.

    Nice to see that Montreal is still strong? did they win that game?
     
  24. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The Calgary/Cinnci attendance was stated at around 350.
     
  25. rhinofan14468

    rhinofan14468 New Member

    May 12, 2003
    hilton ny
    attendence

    rhinos had 9137 still not real good weather at lest it wasnt raining but was threating all day weather has been misable all year so far of course sunday is going to be sunny and near 80 for a meaning less canam game against syracuse also RHINOS 2 and HOUNDS 0.
     

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