NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by dapip, Feb 20, 2015.

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Do we need more strict gun laws?

  1. Repeal the second baby!

    59 vote(s)
    50.4%
  2. We need better mental healthcare..

    46 vote(s)
    39.3%
  3. A discussion on the topic would be interesting..

    33 vote(s)
    28.2%
  4. That's Liberul talk for them to take may gunz!

    9 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands..

    16 vote(s)
    13.7%
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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honest question…do you think the US today is worse than Russia was in 2018? Because otherwise your comment doesn’t make sense to me.

    I mean, don’t we know what FIFA is by this point?
     
  2. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Your response makes no sense. The World Cup should not have been in Russia either.
     
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  3. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Damn, we have fell so low, if our arguments are now that we are slightly better than Russia.




    I know, I know, but still, shows how we're headed on a terrible direction...
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If FIFA didn’t pull it from Russia they aren’t gonna pull it from the US. That’s my point. Anyone expecting differently isn’t paying attention to the last 10 years.
     
  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    “Slightly” better?

    Some of yall are have no historical or international context for anything. Yall have no idea how much worse it could be.

    It’s awful here now and the trendlines are ominous. But saying things like we’re “slightly” better than Russia leads to unrealistic hopelessness. It becomes self fulfilling prophecy.
     
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  6. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Your reading must be off. Nothing in any of my posts showed any expectation of FIFA pulling out of the US.
     
  7. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    If FIFA wouldn’t pull out, one would hope they at least have a plan B.
     
  8. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    speaking of pulling out….

     
  9. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nuance SD. Didn't you read the second part of my post?

     
  10. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Depends on how you define “worse”. And who it is worse for. The Trump administration is much less practiced in totalitarian governance than Russia was in 2018. Were Russia in the midst of an immigrant round up in 2018….there is zero doubt in my mind the Putin could have ended it with a snap of his fingers. I’m not sure Trump has that level of control over the forces he’s unleashed. My evidence? The Hyundai raid. The freedom our fascists have to make decisions like that at the local level is infinitely worse for FIFA…whether they recognize it or not.
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or Brazil in 2014, or South Africa in 2010, or Qatar in 2022 for certain demographics.
     
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  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That right there gets to the heart of problem with the over the top self flagellating that goes on here…no Russia was not in the midst of an immigration round up because it’s such a total shithole that nobody immigrates to there!!!! By definition, a nation with lots of immigrants is desirable and a nation with no immigrants is not.

    Yall need to ask yourselves every time you want to write something silly but self soothing about how shitty America is…if America is so shitty how come people break the law to come here? I would go so far as to say that immigration is going down right now because America is less desirable.
     
  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I took the word “yet” to indicate expectation or disappointment.
     
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Russia ranked fourth in the world for the absolute number of immigrants in its population in 2020.

    Suspect that's reduced significantly since they started handing immigrants a rifle with no ammunition and packed them off to Ukraine.
     
  15. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Disappointment yes expectation no. If there is any movement on this front it wouldn't be FIFA initiating it but pressure from federations.
     
  16. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I’ll be honest…I am having trouble understanding how this was a response to the point I made. And you obviously don’t remember what was happening in Russia in 2017.
     
  17. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh? Both Brasil and South Africa have clearly functioning democracies. Yes, they spent what they should not have and that money could have gone towards improving their country. But, at that time, they were not like Russia or Qatar, and not like what the US is and is becoming (and it says something that we are able to compare ourselves to Russia).
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Yeah some shoppers might get split

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  19. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well hey, at least the guy who doesn't have the money to pay for the $800 grocery bill is armed.

    Publix is all over Florida. I'm sure this will go swimmingly.
     
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  20. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    I'd guess that everyone who is gonna go to Publix strapped already goes to Publix strapped.
     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    God forbid any shopper gets upset at the price of eggs!!!! Do clerks and cashiers get to carry as well?
     
  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Southern store clerks are already overly nice. Now they're going to be bowing and loading your groceries into the car :D
     
  23. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The only way to stop a bad shopper with an AR15 is a good clerk with an AR15.
     
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  24. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Harden the targets-- arm the bodega cats...
     
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  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Not sure the Southern brain can handle all this

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