NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

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Do we need more strict gun laws?

  1. Repeal the second baby!

    59 vote(s)
    50.4%
  2. We need better mental healthcare..

    46 vote(s)
    39.3%
  3. A discussion on the topic would be interesting..

    33 vote(s)
    28.2%
  4. That's Liberul talk for them to take may gunz!

    9 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands..

    16 vote(s)
    13.7%
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  1. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I would actually be very interested in seeing this. Not being confrontational or ironic. I’ve just never encountered any of it, although I am constantly assured that it is in fact the case.
     
  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
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    That's a problem with the genre. Or maybe with the algorithm, I don't know. If your source of income is based in the attention economy, you're going to be tempted to keep getting attention. That's not necessarily bad, but given how the algorithm is designed, it means that de-contextualized and controversial hot takes are going to generate more clicks, attracting your fans and your detractors. I don't think this is healthy for discourse, but it's the best way to cash in on social media.
     
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  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
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    United States
    Are we gonna talk about the ICE shootings here? What we know so far.

    1. Two of the victims were detainees, and the shooter killed himself. He may be the only fatality.
    2. Ominously, the FBI is reporting that the bullets had anti-ICE messages written on them.

    In short, this looks like a deranged, politically incoherent copy cat.
     
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  4. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The FBI is not a reliable source. There was a Wall Street Journal article immediately after the Kirk shooting which quoted an FBI source and contained misinformation. The record was corrected later, but people in the FBI are using the media to misinform. (Or maybe the Wall Street Journal is misinforming people and blaming the FBI.)

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/wall-street-journal-quietly-walks-182931692.html
     
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  5. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
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    Argentina
    We believes in nothing!
     
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  6. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
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    DC United
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    Germany
    It's also an issue where the evolutionary predisposition to identify dangerous situations and deal with them plays into our bad news bias that will feed into the algorithms that social media sites use to increase user engagement. Throw in the added "benefit" of driving everyone into their own collective silos and everyone who regularly engages in those algorithms is, at least subconsciously, led to believe only the best about their side and only the worst about whoever their perceived opposition is.
     
  7. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been looking at the AP for updates for consistency.
    They first reported 3 victims.
    They then reported ICE people said none of their people were victims (see previous post). They also said sniper, who killed himself.
    They then reported ICE people shot at sniper.
    They then reported ICE people said not clear who shooter was shooting at.
    They are now reporting (in their live feed)
    “Early evidence that we’ve seen from rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages that were anti-ICE in nature,” said Joe Rothrock, special agent in charge of the Dallas field office.

    What I'm seeing is that more information is coming out, but we don't have the full story. I'm not going to pay attention to anything Patel says.
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    It's almost like the FBI should stop f**king leaking information to the press immediately after an incident.. The problem is, the guy running the FBI is more interested in messaging than he is in actually investigating crimes.
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Belgium
    I mean he and bongo are literally podcasters
     
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  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    For me it was always super clear that the Bari Weiss / Bill Ackman crowd were never operating in good faith and now we have the proof of it. I am not sure why the FIRE types were so gullible on that front. I think I posted before i saw a good interview with a Reason editor where he was sadly noting that most of the right/libertarians didn't believe in free speech after all - as if that wasn't obvious for years
     
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  11. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
    That's Dan Bongino, for those of you playing at home.
     
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  12. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    If you don't know Jitty's nicknames for everyone do you even BigSoccer bro?
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I miss the season one characters like Skeletor Barbie
     
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  14. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Aimer?
     
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  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    George Conway's wife.

    Heh. They had a good set-up for awhile. George fleeces the Libs, and the wife fleeced the Conservatives.
     
  16. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    So, question for my fellow antifa terrorists. If you were going to write an anti-ICE message on your bullet casings before you go shoot up an ICE facility, which of the following would you write:
    a) ******** ICE
    b) Death to ICE
    c) Anti-ICE

    Second question - which of the above messages do you think would be written by an FBI agent who was told by a corrupt FBI director to create "evidence" by writing an anti-ICE message on a bullet casing?
     
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  17. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    Allahu Akbar, obviously!!!
     
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  18. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
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    DC United
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    Germany
    1. Much like the text messages between the shooter and his roommate/lover/whatever two weeks ago, this seems like it almost has to be fake.
    2. College aged, and slightly older, kids today are often tremendously unintelligent and barely capable of doing more than the most basic things, which makes both sadly plausible as being real.
     
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  19. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    I would creatively incorporate the idea of turning them into WATER. Don’t know quite how…but I’ll think of something by the next Antifa meeting.
     
  20. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah, hard to make sense of the texas shooting. To state the obvious, if he was anti-ICE wouldn't be shooting AT the ice agents, instead of everyone EXCEPT them?
     
  21. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    My first thought was that he was targeting Latinos and such a shooter would think that an ICE facility would be a good place to target them.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    So the shooter shot the detainees (that Trump calls human scum) and Trump is mad about that >>>
     
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  23. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
    That was my initial thought, and I'm still leaning that way as I don't trust what is being presented by ICE and the feds. Saying that, it appears that Kirk's killer was off target based on what those more knowledgeable have said, and this guy was from a similar distance so it is possible he was also off target. Really does seem like he just wildly shot.
     
  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    :(

    Allison F
    Uniquely American experience to be detained by ICE in some shitty facility and then shot by a mass shooter
     
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  25. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Yet FIFA is still going to hold part of the 2026 World Cup in the US.
     
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