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But none of that suggests Robinson was influenced by Antifa ideology or similar rhetoric from the Left, which was what Cox was clearly insinuating. To say support for gay/transgender rights is “leftist ideology” implies that support for minority rights in general is leftist ideology, and that’s absurd.

 

In general it’s the left who are more supportive of minority rights, so no, not absurd. And I never heard Cox mention Antifa, did you?

 

Is it though? Or I guess we can say it’s not right wing in the MAGA sense. They’re pretty much telling on themselves as far as that goes.

 

I don’t know if that’s true. Antifa is pretty closely associated with far left extremism afaik. I don’t think they’re reliable votes for Democrats though, I imagine they have more anarchists in their ranks and endorse a more extreme ideology. Im no antifa expert though.

 

this seems quite likely. it may be a stretch for the Gov to suggest he was a big lefty beyond his support for his roommate and his disdain for Kirk’s anti trans stance.

 

I mean a quick google search says antifa is a far left political movement but okay.

 

That’s because in this country fascism is currently associated with the right.

 

thank you

 

Maybe, but if Jean-Francois Lyotard is right in The Post Modern Tradition, first of all Metanarratives had to be killed off.

 

Maga: Let's murder us some f**** and t**** and n***** and demonrats and torture a bunch of we*****!

Left: you're a monster and a**** who will get what's coming to you.

Quake: excuse you sir! We have to have civility here you damned leftists!

 

yes civility may seem rather quaint but I’m sticking with it, good sir. And tbh I’m not thrilled with the extreme leftists either. You can check me on this (as you probably know more) but as far as I know, once we get into Antifa territory, in this country, in this day and age, we’re talking about anarchists, people who’d like to maybe see capitalism replaced with socialism and generally not reliable votes for Democrats. And they make for a great bogeyman that can help scare the bejeezus out of folks and send them fleeing into the (R) camp.

 

they’re not reliable votes for anyone. they don’t vote. Doing so would lend legitimacy to the system they want to bring down.

violent right wing extremists, increasingly, do vote. For Trump. And when he tells them to, they riot. And he pardons them.

This is not, right now, a “both sides” thing.

 

yes, so they’re lefties who are probably more helpful to Trump and MAGA world, in the long run.

and of course Trump holds all the cards and even when he didn’t, Democrats were feckless and unable to hold him to account.

Maybe Antifa is part of why the youth vote broke more heavily for Trump, they don’t want to be associated with anarchists and communists. That’s poison here.

 

If you go left enough you get back your guns.

If you go right enough they espouse the classic Roman/Greek and you get back your gay.

 

So they’d rather be associated with the goons who did January 6th?

 

If I may split hairs…when it’s written as “antifa,” in America, yeah, it’s left.

 

It’s hard to speak for the youth vote and where their heads are. I expect you have a better sense for this being on campus…I doubt if they’re thrilled about J6 either but it’s very concerning that young men in particular went for Trump in significant numbers. I expect there are several reasons for this, far left and Antifa politics perhaps drove some of this…I’d need to read up. But something attracted them to a second Trump term in numbers that were both surprising and dismaying.

 

You're technically correct, which allow me to point out ironically is the best kind of correct.

Quakes, pop quiz time. Don’t use a search engine.

1. Name a person in Antifa (capital A and all). Just name a name, without googling. Because I could name 20 American fascists in the amount of time it takes me to type 20 names. (Well, maybe 19 now.)
2. Who is the most powerful elected official who adheres to Antifa ideology. Again, I could name 20 fascist elected officials in the amount of time it takes me to type 20names.

 

This made me laugh. I have two kids who are part of the “youth vote.”

The idea you suggested is so ludicrous that it’s natural to think you’re trolling rather than having an honest discussion. If you’re not trolling you’re insanely online, and I mean “insane” in the literal sense of, you’re so online your brain doesn’t function anymore. I made the comparison before but you’re a doppelganger for crookeddy.