NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

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Do we need more strict gun laws?

  1. Repeal the second baby!

    59 vote(s)
    50.4%
  2. We need better mental healthcare..

    46 vote(s)
    39.3%
  3. A discussion on the topic would be interesting..

    33 vote(s)
    28.2%
  4. That's Liberul talk for them to take may gunz!

    9 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands..

    16 vote(s)
    13.7%
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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    They still have firing squad? I really have to bone up on the exection methods of states.
     
  2. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    You don’t know this . Two of the bullets had anti-fascist messages which isn’t right wing . The other two were internet memes related if I saw correctly . One of which might might be connected to Nick Fuentes (the reference about if you read this , you’re gay )
     
  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    There were no George Floyds
    No Trayvon Martins
    No Eric Garners illegally selling caffeinated drinks outside the 7-11

    We don't have such things in Utah & we never will!
     
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  4. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    No because they were saying it could be a non-trans but a defender of trans causes . They were going by some report that the bullet had some reference to it . Probably a fake early report to instigate .
     
  5. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Source/link?
     
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  6. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    His family is conservative, however, Robinson is a registered voter in Utah, but does not have a party affiliation. So technically he's undefined in terms of party affiliate.
     
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  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
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    United States
    Source/link? I think you’re making that up.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    How is this racist?????
     
  9. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    #5684 Khan, Sep 12, 2025
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    So, this guy's not a "trained assassin," he's not former military. He used a Mauser 98 .30-06, which is a decent hunting rifle.

    I guess out of all of that, I got the caliber wrong; I'd been thinking it was a .308.


    And yeah, the disingenuous arguments from the right, and their veneration of him is annoying. I've heard right wing clowns compare Kirk to Martin Luther King, or to proclaim that a non-serving freedom freeloader "fought for his country," and more.

    Flying the flag at half-mast is a bit rich, for an a$$hole who called veterans "losers."


    And through all of this, the school shooting in Colorado got buried...
     
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  10. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Red Card

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    so you don't know that he's a "conservative dude" or a "Right Wing terrorist"...do you even have source/link info about his family politics?
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    Literally described in the FBI briefing today .
     
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  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Well, he is an MLK figure for Whitelandian Nazis
     
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  13. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I rely on P&CE and SM for most of me news these days, so you hafta Source/Link your assertions, dawg. I didn't make those rules. Superdave did.
     
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  14. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  16. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    Nope I really don’t have to . Of all the rules broken around here , this would be the least of the problematic ones . My unlinked posts are more informative than silly lazy tweet posts
     
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  17. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I suppose so.

    Between the outright lies and the distortion of language from that side, its really a disservice to public discourse.


    (I REALLY can't wait for the fvkcing international break to be over.)
     
  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I respond that way when I suspect someone is bullshitting us
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s not a rule. He’s just being petulant. Information is breaking up his hilarious flow of song parodies making light of a murder.
     
  20. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
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  21. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    We have been discussing resistance to fascism in other threads. I know, I promised to give my insight, but I've been busy, I want to share my thoughts when I have more time. But here's is my take on this assasination:

    I don't agree with sniper assasinations, but when people talk about resisting fascism, what are they talking about? As I see it, the United States is at war, it is a real social war and unfortunately like in any war there will be real life casualties.

    Mr. Kirk chose a side in the war, the side that many of us associate with fascism, and he used his freedom of speech to publicly promote many controversial positions, and in doing so he pissed off a lot of people who are against such things.

    It appears that one of those people took it too far, and murdered him, but that's what's going to happen in a real war. Get used to it, because I fear it's going to happen more and more, if the country continues going in this direction.

    And as I told you guys, I feel like I've seen this movie before. I grew up in a very polarized society, one in which the democratic institutions were completely discredited, and I saw things play out, murders, bombings, illegal arrests, coups, the destruction of democracy, and sadly that's the direction in which I see us going here.
     
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  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks ASF

    People who do nothing but make jokes about this are sociopaths.
     
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  23. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Chicago Fire
    That would have been a great way to address Kirk yesterday but for Tyler Robinson:

    First Question: How many trans people have committed mass shootings?
    First Answer: Evasive BS
    Second Question: How many mass shootings have there been in the past X decades?
    Second Answer: Evasive BS with racist overtones.
    Third Question: How many mass shooters are Ammosexuals
    Third Answer: Evasive BS regarding second amendment rights for all, and first amendment rights for ammosexuals.

    Alas, Tyler ruined the give and take for all of us.
     
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  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    You wouldn't know, of course. Or you do, which is worse
     

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