@deejay , I’m sure you are really concerned about this, coming from a former dictatorship. They don’t even know who the guy is or his motivation, but “here we go!”
I think what happened was reprehensible but it never occurs to these people that they might be on the business end of a gun one day. Anyway, I'm not surprised at the hollering conservatives are doing. They're not used to being afraid nor being on the receiving end of violence.
Well, the Wobblies were out there. Until they were judicially and, when necessary, violently eliminated. But the government reaction was fierce because they were effective, would be my guess.
Strikes me that this is likely former military. Thinking he's had at least some level of training here.
Maybe, but the pics show a pretty young guy and the description is “college aged”. From what others have said somebody who grew up hunting would likely be proficient enough to make that shot. But at the very least they planned the operation skillfully.
That was what I was getting at, but they were quite a minority. Joe Hill was killed here! Mother Jones hung out in Price several times. Brigham Young and the Mormons were very skeptical of miners and mining, considering it a filthy and unwholesome practice fueled by prostitution and too much booze.
That was my initial thought. But based on what a few here have said who have greater knowledge than me suggest that the shooter needed only a moderate level of skill, and nobody has suggested that he was likely in the military. There has been some discussion of the shooting, itself, which suggests that it was off target, which to my reading suggests that it is not necessarily somebody will military training.
Some more light reading: https://www.wired.com/story/right-w...or-allegedly-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death/ I’m sure @deejay would be shocked, SHOCKED!!! at the quelling of free speech here. Laura Loomer is just a rando whack job that doesn’t have any influence in the current administration, right? RIGHT?
Apparently 200 yards is pretty basic military training and doesn’t even require one to be a crack shot.
Social media is one of the worst things to inflict human society in centuries. Seriously. It's going to be the ruin of a functional, rules based order. It's just so, so toxic. Humans are not evolved enough to cope with it's consequences.
I'm hoping he would be alarmed enough to see that the major threat to the First Amendment is the current administration and it's multitude of sycophantic lackeys.
Those f********ing lefties! Destroying our free speech rights!!! @deejay https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...-foreigners-praising-kirk-killing-2025-09-11/ Landau did not specify what those actions might be.
I can't remember where I saw it (maybe here), but it could also still be former military, or at least someone that is used to an AR. From what I saw, the fact that Kirk was hit in the neck is indicative of the person pulling the trigger and that movement slightly adjusting the aim. The comment mentioned that the reason for that adjustment could be that an AR's trigger is easier to pull than the trigger for a bolt action. So if the person were used to an AR and not a bolt action, the need to pull the trigger harder may cause their aim to unintentionally adjust in a manner were Kirk's centermass was aimed at, but by the time the trigger was pulled and bullet fired, it pulled high and right to hit Kirk's neck.
Society as a whole hasn't even come close to grappling with the consequences yet, or broader impacts it's having. Up and down generations, it's creating irreversible damage to rational functioning. The net negatives just cannot be understated imo. In a psychological sense, it's akin to the physical impacts of chain smoking on an entire generation, or even worse. I'm not sure what the answer is, as it's so far past the proverbial barn door now. But, it's ********ing awful.