NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

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Do we need more strict gun laws?

  1. Repeal the second baby!

    59 vote(s)
    50.4%
  2. We need better mental healthcare..

    46 vote(s)
    39.3%
  3. A discussion on the topic would be interesting..

    33 vote(s)
    28.2%
  4. That's Liberul talk for them to take may gunz!

    9 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands..

    16 vote(s)
    13.7%
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  1. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    They care no more about free speech than the anti-drone people cared about drone attacks.
     
  2. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    @deejay , I’m sure you are really concerned about this, coming from a former dictatorship. They don’t even know who the guy is or his motivation, but “here we go!”
     
  3. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    The best part is for some reason people are thinking Utah is a bastion of left wing thought.
     
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  4. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Maybe 100 years ago. Not today!
     
  5. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Not then either.
     
  6. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    I think what happened was reprehensible but it never occurs to these people that they might be on the business end of a gun one day.

    Anyway, I'm not surprised at the hollering conservatives are doing. They're not used to being afraid nor being on the receiving end of violence.
     
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  7. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    Well, the Wobblies were out there.

    Until they were judicially and, when necessary, violently eliminated. But the government reaction was fierce because they were effective, would be my guess.
     
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  8. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
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    Strikes me that this is likely former military. Thinking he's had at least some level of training here.
     
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  9. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    Maybe, but the pics show a pretty young guy and the description is “college aged”. From what others have said somebody who grew up hunting would likely be proficient enough to make that shot. But at the very least they planned the operation skillfully.
     
  10. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    That was what I was getting at, but they were quite a minority. Joe Hill was killed here! Mother Jones hung out in Price several times.

    Brigham Young and the Mormons were very skeptical of miners and mining, considering it a filthy and unwholesome practice fueled by prostitution and too much booze.
     
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  11. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    #5586 rslfanboy, Sep 11, 2025
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2025
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  12. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    That was my initial thought. But based on what a few here have said who have greater knowledge than me suggest that the shooter needed only a moderate level of skill, and nobody has suggested that he was likely in the military. There has been some discussion of the shooting, itself, which suggests that it was off target, which to my reading suggests that it is not necessarily somebody will military training.
     
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  13. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Italics or quotes help. I thought you were posting about you. :coffee:
     
  14. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/we-must-not-posthumously-sanitize

    It goes on.
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

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    Well they do look like they have the mark of Cain.
     
  16. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Some more light reading:
    https://www.wired.com/story/right-w...or-allegedly-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death/


    I’m sure @deejay would be shocked, SHOCKED!!! at the quelling of free speech here.

    Laura Loomer is just a rando whack job that doesn’t have any influence in the current administration, right? RIGHT?
     
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  17. Paul Berry

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    Not everyone in the military is a crack shot.
     
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  18. luftmensch

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  19. luftmensch

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    Apparently 200 yards is pretty basic military training and doesn’t even require one to be a crack shot.
     
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  20. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
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    Social media is one of the worst things to inflict human society in centuries. Seriously.

    It's going to be the ruin of a functional, rules based order.

    It's just so, so toxic. Humans are not evolved enough to cope with it's consequences.
     
  21. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    I'm hoping he would be alarmed enough to see that the major threat to the First Amendment is the current administration and it's multitude of sycophantic lackeys.
     
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  22. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

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    Those f********ing lefties! Destroying our free speech rights!!! @deejay
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...-foreigners-praising-kirk-killing-2025-09-11/
    Landau did not specify what those actions might be.
     
  23. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Red Card

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    I was just having this very conversation at the coffee shop, I think you’re exactly right.
     
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  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    I can't remember where I saw it (maybe here), but it could also still be former military, or at least someone that is used to an AR. From what I saw, the fact that Kirk was hit in the neck is indicative of the person pulling the trigger and that movement slightly adjusting the aim. The comment mentioned that the reason for that adjustment could be that an AR's trigger is easier to pull than the trigger for a bolt action. So if the person were used to an AR and not a bolt action, the need to pull the trigger harder may cause their aim to unintentionally adjust in a manner were Kirk's centermass was aimed at, but by the time the trigger was pulled and bullet fired, it pulled high and right to hit Kirk's neck.
     
  25. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

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    Society as a whole hasn't even come close to grappling with the consequences yet, or broader impacts it's having.

    Up and down generations, it's creating irreversible damage to rational functioning. The net negatives just cannot be understated imo.

    In a psychological sense, it's akin to the physical impacts of chain smoking on an entire generation, or even worse.

    I'm not sure what the answer is, as it's so far past the proverbial barn door now. But, it's ********ing awful.
     
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