NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by dapip, Feb 20, 2015.

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Do we need more strict gun laws?

  1. Repeal the second baby!

    54 vote(s)
    51.4%
  2. We need better mental healthcare..

    38 vote(s)
    36.2%
  3. A discussion on the topic would be interesting..

    29 vote(s)
    27.6%
  4. That's Liberul talk for them to take may gunz!

    7 vote(s)
    6.7%
  5. You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands..

    15 vote(s)
    14.3%
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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    “Well-regulated milita”
     
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  2. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Thing is, contrary to the FF hopes and expectations, a "well regulated militia" is no longer "necessary to the security of a free state." Contrary to their expectations and fears, we have a very powerful and usually highly professional and usually highly ethical military for that security. Though there have been some periods of shakiness on the ethics part.

    But now, really within the last 30--40 years or so, we have developed really ill-regulated militias which are among the greatest threats to that security. So now it all hangs on the legal definition of "infringed..."
     
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  3. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    This judge thinks an AR-15 is a home defense weapon....SMH.
     
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  4. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I think you'll find that Section 8 of the Constitution, although not specifically mentioning the Swiss, implies that their knives are very similar to our blunderbuss'. :coffee:
     
  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's the libs among us that should be thinking of joining a well regulated militia given the current clampdown on democracy.
     
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  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kingston NY had a gun amnesty.

    Locals took advantage to get rid of their rusty and inoperable weapons.

    The 47 weapons surrendered included 1 semi-automatic weapon and 15 handguns, which I guess is better than nothing. The rest were rifles and rust.
     
  7. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Isn't that a Joan Baez song?
    "We both know what memories can bring/ they bring rifles and rust..."
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't know, I'm only 59.
     
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  9. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10-year-old killed in New York City after multiple shots fired at a Queens home, NYPD says.
     
  11. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
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  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    Interesting tweet thread on just how bonkers that California judge’s decision to overturn the assault weapons is.

     
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  13. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    I suppose it depends on what one is trying to defend against. If you're trying to defend against MAGA brownshirts, it's a reasonable choice.

    I do think people should be able to privately own daisy cutters though...as part of the well regulated militia. To own one, it'd have to be well regulated - which would mean being a member of our well regulated militia in the National Guard. From there, actually operating it would have to come under the guidance and regulation of the NG.
     
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  14. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Using a weapon for home defense that will shoot through your house, your neighbors house, and probably through a couple of houses down the street isn’t a reasonable choice.
     
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  15. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    Use frangible ammo. The platform doesn't dictate the caliber either - most of them use fairly light rounds that don't have any special penetration.
     
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  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I somehow tuned in to a KC news bulletin which reported 4 dead in 4 separate shootings and 2 dead in separate shootings.

    Not sure if the second was a subset of, or addition to, the first.

    Also, a bad person driving a car killed a good person driving a car and someone was shot dead over a video game.

     
  17. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    The good news is that they had terrible aim:

     
  18. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Lulz...:rolleyes:
     
  19. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I have heard that talking point from a number of right wingers.

    It must be on the official post-its. Up there with "'critical race theory' is Marxism" and "cancel culture..."
     
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  20. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    Defending the right of their voters to threaten the rest of us with armed violence is the endgame.

    Armed "election monitors" hanging around polling places for the purpose of intimidating Democratic voters will be a feature, not a bug, of future elections.
     
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  21. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :thumbsup:
     
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  22. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    But it was such a rational and well-reasoned ruling!

    "Like the Swiss Army Knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment," Benitez said in the ruling.

    Who can argue with such peerless logic?
     
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That being said.. The loopholes in the CA law are large enough to drive an armored car through.
     
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  24. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    ...with dudes carrying AR-15s! :eek:
     
  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    pretty much. As an example, these are all legal in CA:

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    Virtually identical to any other AR, they just have a flange appended to the back of their pistol grip, thus making them "rifles" instead of "assault rifles".
     
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