NSR: A gun on Every Corner: Discuss the NRA, Gun Ownership and All Those Non-Mass Shootings..

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Do we need more strict gun laws?

  1. Repeal the second baby!

    46 vote(s)
    51.1%
  2. We need better mental healthcare..

    30 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. A discussion on the topic would be interesting..

    23 vote(s)
    25.6%
  4. That's Liberul talk for them to take may gunz!

    5 vote(s)
    5.6%
  5. You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands..

    13 vote(s)
    14.4%
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  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
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    I doubt they started off just waving the guys through. Most likely they started off doing full screenings, but, as I've said multiple times, it wasn't worth spending the time processing them, just to give them back the most dangerous thing they could carry. Basically, the lines got too long and people complained about the long lines, so they got rid of the thing that caused the long lines in the only way they could.

    Because the appearance of security is in itself a form of security. It's the same concept as having a sign for a home security company in your front yard without actually having the system for that company in your house. Robbers will look at your house, see the sign, then move on to the neighbor's house because your house looks more difficult than theirs.
     
  2. xtomx

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    Yeah, I am done with this conversation.
    It is pointless.
     
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  3. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    I think the point is, if you already see the AR, what else is that guy going to be hiding that is more dangerous?
     
  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    #RedStateLogic

    #GoodGuywithAR15

    #MyDickisTooSmall4Xrays
     
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  5. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Stand your ground Laws seem to be made for certain kind of people:


    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/brittany-smith-loses-her-stand-your-ground-hearing


    The Stand Your Ground hearing, which was held in the Jackson County Courthouse in Scottsboro, Alabama—a county with more than double the state average of aggravated assaults per capita—began with testimony from Jeanine Suermann, a sexual-assault nurse examiner who saw Brittany the morning after the shooting. Suermann testified that Brittany’s wounds were consistent with having been bitten, strangled with two hands around her neck, and assaulted with “a lot of force.” The nurse listed bruises to Brittany’s neck, breasts, arms, legs, and head, and spoke repeatedly about the petechiae—discolored patches that can indicate the use of extreme pressure—that dotted Brittany’s hairline and neck. “She was probably hit multiple times and held down,” Suermann said. She testified that, during the examination, Brittany had described waking up “with no clothes in a puddle of urine” after having tried to fight back. “Scratched him everywhere I could,” Brittany told Suermann. “He was going to kill me.” At the conclusion of Suermann’s testimony, which lasted for more than two hours and included dozens of photographs of Brittany’s injuries, Jeff Poe, Todd’s cousin, left the courthouse with tears in his eyes. Poe had told me that, after Todd’s death, he’d considered having Brittany killed. But, after listening to the nurse’s testimony, Poe messaged me asking me to convey his apologies to Brittany and her family “for all this mess they have been through.” “It put me in a sick state of mind listening to all that today,” he wrote. “I’m sorry from the bottom of my heart.”

    Yet Jason Pierce, the Jackson County District Attorney, attempted throughout the two-day hearing to cast doubt on whether Brittany had actually been raped, because there was no definitive sample of Todd’s semen, which the nurse examiner said is common in sexual-assault cases. The judge cited this detail in her decision, saying that she did not believe the evidence was consistent with a sexual assault. She also cited a 911 call in which Brittany said that she had not been raped; Brittany told me that she had been ashamed to admit it. In the hearing, Pierce questioned whether Brittany had truly feared for her life. At one point, the District Attorney noted that Todd had not had a gun or a knife on him. “But he had his hands. His penis. His mouth,” Brittany replied at the hearing, with controlled frustration. “You saw the thirty-three wounds on my body.”

    Brittany and her brother, Chris McCallie, originally told police that McCallie had shot Todd; both believed that a woman would not get a fair trial in Jackson County, a place where advocates say that women’s complaints of violence are often ignored by police. In her ruling, the judge wrote that her decision was influenced by the fact that Brittany had given “inconsistent accounts of the events surrounding Todd’s death.” But Chris argued that, if law enforcement had known that it was Brittany who fired the gun, she would not have been taken for a rape-kit examination until it was too late. Even in court, with the exam’s findings and the photos of Brittany’s injuries splashed across a TV screen, it was clear that documentation of the violence wasn’t enough.
     
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  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    This is not that difficult to understand:
    Other guns (which were not detected)
    Bombs (which may be way more lethal and do not require the perpetrator to be present)
    Most importantly, 20 people with guns could show up and are waived through, each with 1/20th of a large explosive device. None are checked and they assemble the large explosive device.
    Etc.
     
  7. ElNaranja

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    Jul 16, 2017
    #RedStateLogic

    20 people with guns are waved through. Once inside they open fire, specifically on all the 'librul commie socialist nazis' killing many, wounding more. Asked what could be done to prevent another incident, they shrug their shoulders saying 'They had every right to carry those guns and nothing we could do to stop them. Price we pay for freedom.'

    Pretty sure that would be their response to a T.
     
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  8. ceezmad

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    Yet, they did not open fire.

    It is surprising, so many dangerous weapons in one place, yet no one got hurt, that is so weird.
     
  9. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    If you visibly carry an AR, and have license to do so, why would you try to conceal a handgun? What size room would 20 people, each with 1/20th of a bomb, need to assemble it? How much time?

    What you see at the airport or anywhere else is just security theater.
     
  10. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member

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    That time. Plenty of times when those guns have been used for mass murder. But were tacitly ok with that so long as we can play soldier and look cool.

    We should be thanking a random civilian every day for their sacrifice for the 2nd ammendment.
     
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  11. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Last time and I am totally done with the subject:

    The issue at stake is the special privilege (NOT having to go through security) that gun-totting loons have that non-gun carrying folks do not have.

    I was giving examples:
    -there are other weapons besides handguns that could be concealed and hand guns could be concealed in the incredibly likely event that somebody asks ever so politely that the AR-totting loon set his AR aside before entering, say, the Legislature or governor's office.

    -the bomb could be assembled in the bathroom.
    Try it for yourself. Get 20 friends together and give a go. See how well it works at the Ohio State Capital.

    You will not get much argument from me about this.
     
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  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Is it okay for me to acknowledge that this behavior is wrong, but still laugh my ass off at that little twit at the same time?
     
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  13. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    My niece was one of the OU students at this event. She said it was pretty obvious the students were being encouraged to react this way to create content for the Gun Girl’s social media followers.

    The kids were being used and they didn’t seem to care.
     
  14. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Wait a minute. That whole thing was STAGED???

    Ugh. What an attention whore.
     
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  15. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    Pretty much. The gun chick was trying to incite an incident and the kids wanted to be on the media feed of an “influencer”.
     
  16. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
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    "Okay?"

    More like "Compulsory…"
     
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  17. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Those are terrorists?

    What a couple of snowflakes in a pick-up truck.

    Her security guy is HUGE. In another video, he just picks her and moves her around like a doll.
     
  18. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Maybe they should have safe spaces everywhere for all of Trump's delicate and fragile cult members.
     
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  19. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
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    You guys get she did this on purpose right?
     
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  20. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
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    That sounds like something a self- loathing anti-American lib'rul would claim! :eek:
     
  21. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
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    Yes. :) you are aware the posters are mocking her for it?
     
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  22. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    I know. Calling them terrorists is like calling FC Cincinnati an MLS Cup contender.
     
  23. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Or the Chicago Fire (FC). Oh,wait,what???
     
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  24. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

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    Mock all you want, chick is making bank off playing these stupid college kids for fools.
     
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  25. Auriaprottu

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    The back of the bus
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    Is Sinisa Mihailovic on the short list to replace Jans?
     

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