A Dozen P-40's - MLSnet

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jmeissen0, Jan 9, 2003.

  1. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    Arturo Alvarez
    Brian Carroll
    Ricardo Clark
    Alecko Eskandarian
    Eddie Gaven (youngest ever to sign)
    Guillermo “Memo” Gonzalez
    Jacob LeBlanc
    Eric “Ricky” Lewis
    Mike Magee
    Logan Pause
    David Stokes
    Jason Thompson
     
  2. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    Wow.

    I would have liked to see Ned Grabavoy on that list, but I'm not sure MLS extended him an offer.

    Impressive list though, congrats MLS!
     
  3. cjschlos

    cjschlos Member

    Jan 21, 1999
    New York
    Plus Development Squads increase to six players
     
  4. Detective40oz

    Detective40oz Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Brian Carroll went to my old high school West Springfield. Pretty cool, makes me wonder how I would have done if MLS was around when I was playing soccer :)
     
  5. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    p-40 graduations

    That list includes Kelly Gray of the Chicago Fire, Miguel Saavedra (waived by Chicago), Chris Carrieri of the Colorado Rapids, Edson Buddle and Kyle Martino of the Columbus Crew, D.C. United’s Quaranta, Brad Davis of the MetroStars, Martin Klinger (waived by the MetroStars) and Shaker Asad (waived by New England
     
  6. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there a limit to the number of P-40's that can be on one team?
     
  7. scudley

    scudley New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Syracuse, NY
    regarding Gray, Buddle, Carrieri, etc...

    Is there a milestone one reaches that makes a player no longer P-40 eligible?
     
  8. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    i think age is one part

    pay and play are other parts as well

    dmb has already graduated from p-40
     
  9. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think there is a limit, but after 6, they'll start counting as full roster players.

    There used to be some benchmarks floating around on the MLS website about P-40 graduations...if you play a certain number of minutes or games, then you graduate.

    I'll look it up.

    -edit-

    Ok, looks like it is league discretion, at least since 1999 (and P40 isn't much older than that):

    http://www.mlsnet.com/content/00/p400106grads.html
     
  10. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    12! Wow.

    Surely this is the biggest p-40 class ever.

    Is this Mike Magee the one that was scoring all the goals for the U-17s last year, or was that Amos Magee?
     
  11. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    Twas Mike.
     
  12. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then who is Amos Magee?
     
  13. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    his older brother


    has played for the fire on occassion (mostly an a-leaguer)... i was at a game in wheaton (suburb, u.s. open cup) where he won a game in ot for the fire vs the pittsburgh river hounds by running the ball in with his chest... 3-2

    great game
     
  14. BNAILD1

    BNAILD1 New Member

    Sep 27, 2000
    Amos Mcgee

    Amos is not related Mike.

    He is from the twin cities and I beleive he played for the A-League Thunder last year.

    BNAILD1
     
  15. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    eh

    oh well

    lol
     
  16. EdTheRed

    EdTheRed Member+

    Feb 6, 2001
    Loose On The Town
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Cook Islands
    Re: Amos Mcgee

    Amos is a graduate of Wesleyan University (my alma mater - thank you, thank you very much-a), class of 1993. He was a darned fine player on a darned fine (if D-3) team back in college. I've never seen him play professionally, but he has logged minutes with Tampa (RIP) and Chicago. As he's probably 30 or 31 by now, if he is Mike's older brother, he sure is a lot older (though it's certainly still a biological possibility).
     
  17. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Amos "Chesty" Magee is not related to Mike "The Missing Link" Magee.
     
  18. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Re: Re: Amos Mcgee

    Possible, but not the case.

    Just a coincidence of names.
     
  19. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
    THANKS BRUCE!!!!

    You gotta believe that Arena's plugging of MLS and the success that the WC team just helped make soccer stronger in the US....what a case of success begetting success! No so many youngsters heading to Europe anymore, eh?!! And some of the big names (albeit old ones) coming back! Boys and girls I think we are witnessing a sea change in the state of US soccer!
     
  20. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    Do you remember when P40 players were assigned to teams rather than drafted? Does anyone remember what the process behind that assignment was?
     
  21. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Indianapolis
    Re: THANKS BRUCE!!!!

    To be honest, this is just a drop in the bucket of what MLS needs to do re player development in the U.S.

    Having 24 on the roster, including six, developmental, is worth something, but given the number of prospective pros out there from ages 17-23, you need to have much, much more and especially reserve teams. The roster spots ensure a good training environment for these guys, but coaches won't feel obligated to play them, and that could leave you with guys never getting games for one, two or more years. They need the games (and remember, no agreement with the A League yet.

    Some of this comes with expansion, but the rosters will someday need to be expanded even more, with reserve teams added.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they've signed these players, but most of them are just a year or two from leaving school anyway, and they need to do much more in the future.

    AS far as Europe goes, funny how almost all of these kids still talk about hoping to go to Europe someday, and there will still be players going over every year. Part of that must be the Euro clubs cutting back on spending (presumably that affects their developmental budgets as well).
     
  22. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    Re: Re: THANKS BRUCE!!!!


    that's not exactly a big deal, it just means mls teams will make agreements with a-league teams... which is probably the best thing... as opposed to a deal between mls and the a-league

    it will created for better relationships between those teams and that has to be a bonus... milwaukee used fire players last year to help them win the a-league title

    our players got playing time and they got some hardware
     

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