9 out of 10 BS P&CE Posters Agree - New Pope NOT the same as the Old Pope

And every conservative Italian-American from Detroit to Newark.

 

It's funny to see these so called TradCaths seethe because most Catholics (IME anyway) are more like Joe Biden or Pelosi. It's a part of them but private. Or you're me, attend church only for certain occasions and may cross himself out of fear or for luck, but just want to get on with your day.

Also, Jesuit Pope doing Jesuit things is good.

 

Who said all this?

 

It's like there's a direct line from Donatello, Fra Angelico, Michelangelo, and the anonymous genius behind "Pope Hears Satan's Confession and Grants Absolution"

 

Yes, it is. However, the term is, "lapsed Catholic." I'm one. Catholicism has been a thing in my family as far back as they can remember. I was baptized, I cross myself if I'm about to do something nerve wracking, I experience the guilt (30 Rock has a great bit on it), large but close knit family, celebrate Christmas and Easter (And Fat Tuesday) But nothing more. I haven't been to Mass since the early 2000s, I've never took confession either. Never went to Catholic school (Though my mom did and considered sending me).

For fictional references, the Sopranos are definitely lapsed/cultural Catholics. They identify with it, but they hardly practice it barring certain occasions.

Quite simply, I was raised in the Catholic faith (My mom mostly) but I never followed it as an adult. So yes, culturally Catholic is a thing. And yes, the affiliation is a thing. My grandfather, whose family prayed in French received a lot of flak for marrying a divorced Lutheran woman (My grandmother).

EDIT: I will say that I do plan on visiting the Vatican someday. Mainly as a way to honor my great-grandmother (Who was a devout Catholic), who did so much for both my mom and I and was a very important part of my life.

 

Yes, "culturally" Catholic is a thing. As I was once told by a friend of the family, "you were born Catholic, you are Catholic and you forever will be Catholic". Renouncing your Catholicism is renouncing your ancestry, not just your religion.

 

Good grief. They did a Mass of Reparation over this?

Referring to what the Pastor said when he found out what the deceased person identified as, in what other walk of life would someone be able to say this kind of stuff and not be forced to resign? Ok, rhetorical question. But I mean he didn't even get caught saying it through a hot mic while shit-faced at a pub or anything like that, but on the job, speaking on behalf of his place of business.

Anyway, lemme get back to the 21st century...

 

Truth. Both sides of my family were Catholic and will continue to be in name only.

The disappointment on a relative's face when my sibling told them they weren't getting married in a church. My mother insisted I refer to myself as Lapsed Catholic over the years.

 

There's nothing like denigrating the dead!

 

New Pope, definitely same as the old Pope

Except in this case, the old Pope in question is Pius XII, who did so much to help Nazi war criminals and Holocaust perpetrators to escape to Argentina in the chaos immediately following World War II. Now the new Pope cannot help but express his sympathy for totalitarians, drivers of wars of territorial acquisition, and perpetrators of genocide.

 

My friend Mike identifies as a lapsed Catholic. I'm trying to get him to come to my Vineyard church.

 

U referring to this garbage?

Pope Francis: “Ukraine must have the courage to raise the white flag and negotiate.”

How about the Pope use his influence to call on Putin to withdraw his forces from Ukraine? pic.twitter.com/s7ikbCQrX6

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) March 10, 2024

 

He has to be proactive on Russia's behalf: it's harder for the Catholic Church to establish good ratlines to Argentina these days.

 

Part of a sailing vessel, especially a square-rigged one.

The vertical lines are the "shrouds," the horizontal lines are "ratlines," but the whole assembly is commonly referred to as "the ratlines."

However, in this context and by extension, it is a slang term for the networks of escape routes used by nazis to get out of Germany to various latin american locations in1945-7 or so.

 

Seriously? "Ratline" was the name used to refer to the escape routes the Catholic Church and others set up for S.S. members and Holocaust perpetrators to escape after WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II)