8K video, what's needed to process that in computer set up.

Discussion in 'Technology' started by feyenoordsoccerfan, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. Now that everybody is bored to the hilt it's the right time to round up those with the knowledge to steer the ignorant (like me) in the right direction.
    Relatively affordable quality 8K cameras are around the corner this year. Canon has announced it's 8K EOS R5 as the first one, but I trust the rest will follow soon.
    So to process the video recorded with those I think serious hardware is required.
    So the bored nerds can start typing:)
    It would help me alot to get an idea of what's needed.
     
  2. So, with just days before the highly commented launch of the new mirrorless cameras, R5 and R6, by Canon the specs your computer has to have are awesome.
    The r5 is able to record 8k raw. This means a mind blowing 120+ GB per minute for raw 8K footage. One hour is a whopping 7+ TB:eek::eek::eek:
    So goodbye to harddisks, hello ssd's. And you need big ones=expensive ones.
    Everything that moves data around in your computer has to be ridiculous fast.
    It would be nice if people with knowhow in this would post in here.

    Date of launch is rumoured to be 7th of July 2020.
    https://www.eoshd.com/8k/canon-awak...r5-video-specs-8k-raw-internal-4k-120p-10bit/
     
  3. In anticipation to the release of the canon eos R5, Blackmagic has revealed their upgrade of Diavinci Resolve video editing software:
    https://ymcinema.com/2020/06/18/davinci-resolve-16-2-3-released-getting-ready-to-canon-eos-r5/
    DaVinci Resolve 16.2.3 Released: Getting Ready to Canon EOS R5
    Published on June 18, 2020June 18, 2020 in News by Yossy Mendelovich

    Blackmagic Design has just released DaVinci Resolve 16.2.3. The version includes bug fixes and improvements like better support for RED Komodo files, ARRIRAW, and more. Furthermore, there is enhanced decoding for the forthcoming Canon EOS R5. Read on.





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  4. Interesting developments.
    Hot on the heels of Canon's eos R5 Sharp announces their 8K camera!
    https://www.techradar.com/news/shar...orlds-smallest-8k-interchangeable-lens-camera
    The Canon EOS R5 may be about to launch with impressive video powers, but it won't be the only small 8K camera in town for very long – Sharp has just put the long-rumored 8K Video Camera on its official website for the first time.

    Described on Sharp's Japan website as the 'Small 8K video camera' and 'under development', the unnamed product certain lives up to its billing – the squat design makes it look very much like a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera.

    Like the latter, it will also feature a Micro Four Thirds sensor, which is where it fundamentally differs from the full-frame Canon EOS R5.

    Still, the rumored specs, rounded up by Photo Rumors, suggest it could otherwise be very competitive for those looking for a small 8K camera, assuming it launches globally. It will apparently shoot 8K/30p, 4K/60p at 200Mbps at 10-bit, and provide pro-pleasing features like a full-size HDMI out, a mini XLR input for pro microphones, plus both headphone and audio jacks.
     
  5. Holy smoke. The bitrates for the R5 8k are insane.
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    What motherboard and which RAM and SSD can handle that fast enough. Has to be an epic bg ssd too. How much does that cost.
     
  6. Well, there's something to think about with the 8K Canon. It has very limited recording times.
    https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/...erheats-when-shooting-8k-and-when-shooting-4k
    The Canon EOS R5 overheats when shooting 8K… AND when shooting 4K

    By James Artaius a day ago


    Canon confirms that overheating imposes recording limits not just on 8K, but 4K video as well – including 4K 30p


    The recording limitations are as follows:



    Movie recording size / format Max recording at 23°C (73.4F)
    8K RAW 30p 20 minutes
    8K 30p 20 minutes
    4K 120p 15 minutes
    4K 60p (uncropped) 35 minutes (29m59s + second 5m video)
    4K 60p (cropped) 5.1K oversampling 25 minutes
    4K 30p high quality 8.2K oversampling 30 minutes
    4K 30p Not limited by heat

    So, what actually happens when the R5 overheats? The camera shuts off and requires a cooldown period before it can resume shooting video. CVP's breakdown detailed the amount of 'recovery time' required once the camera has overheated, and the amount of recording that is possible afterwards:


    Movie recording size Recording format standby time (power off) Recordable time (max / approx)
    8K 30p 10 minutes 3 minutes
    ------------20 minutes 8 minutes
    4K 60p (uncropped) 10 minutes 10 minutes




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  7. Well, finally something adressing the title's issue!
    https://fstoppers.com/gear/it-possible-edit-8k-footage-eos-r5-502243
    Is It Possible to Edit the 8K Footage of the EOS R5?

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    The 12-bit 8K raw video of the new Canon EOS R5 sounds exciting, but how would you manage to edit an 8K video on a Mac or PC?


    8K video has been around for a while, but the announcement of the new Canon EOS R5 will certainly change the things we used to do. We will see more 8K footage around and eventually possibly end up buying 8K televisions and monitors. However, from a creator’s perspective, there is more to consider, as the 8K editing will be more challenging.


    In this video, creator Max Yuryev tests the editing performance of the 8K and 4K footage of the Canon EOS R5 using a Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, and a Razer Blade Studio with Windows 10. Using Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, and DaVinci Resolve, he compares the editing performance of 8K footage on both Mac OS and Windows platforms. Yuryev gets some interesting results when working on clips with different frame rates at different resolutions. Performance on each platform varies considering the effects of different components such as the graphics card and processor, but overall, editing an 8K video might be challenging even with the most high-end editing suites.


    What do you think about working with 8K footage? Do you think is it too early for everyday content creators? Let us know in the comments
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    Felix C - 2 days ago [Edited]
    Sorry, but Max is not the most savvy technical YouTuber out there (He totally did not understand Apple ProRes RAW when it first came out). All his computers that are having issues are with the actual video input. Certain Apple Macs can play three streams of 8K footage, they do currently with Red cameras format. In the video, Max changes the timeline from 8K to 4K thinking that will make a difference. It will not because the computers he is using are having a problems converting the initial 8K footage into a usable format. Now, it you convert the Canon 8K video to more computer friendly ProRes, I am sure the later higher end Macs will play the streams without any issues.

    And if worse comes to worse, you can alway edit with proxies, that is how the original Red 4K footage was edited when the Red One first came out.

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    Felix C - a day ago
    The biggest thing with high bitrate video is storage speed. Running m.2 in a raid configuration for a scratch disc will solve some of those problems. Also the only time you really want to keep the video at that high bitrate is during color grading. Once the color grading is done just use a proxy to do the rest of the editing.

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    Felix C - 19 hours ago
    I think this exercise was to see if you can edit in real time without having to resort to proxies or transcoding. He is aware of those options.

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    Bernie Retallack - a day ago [Edited]
    I'm sorry but if you want to edit this in real time, atleast get a decent computer and not an overpriced piece of trash Apple computer with 12 cores for an ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS price of $15K. I'll stick to my Intel Xeon W-3175X @4.5GHz with 192gb RAM @3800MHz CL15, 2X TITAN RTX, Intel Optane 905P 1.5TB(for low latency storage and scratch disks) and custom loop but thanks. Come back when you get a system capable of editing even 4K footage instead of honeybacking off the Apple fanboy wagon with trash systems.

    And yeah, transcoding the footage with FFMPEG might help first.

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    Mandy Coate Bernie Retallack - 15 hours ago
    Calm down man.

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    Rich Pulham
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    Silly man. Laptop computers are wimps compared to a desk top computer built for editing video.




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  8. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...dream-8k-capable-video-editing-pc/ar-BB1aoTIm
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    But 8K files are big and stuffed with more data than most of today's computers are properly able to handle, which means it may be time for a new editing system. A top-spec 8K-capable machine won't come cheap (our test build was over $7,000) and would be overkill for many creators who don't work with 8K footage. But those who are able to offer 8K production to clients will have an advantage over those who are still getting to grips with 4K. And charging a premium for the extra demands of an 8K workflow means that a system like this could eventually pay for itself.
     

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