6-28-2004: White, White baby.

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by JMU Soccer!, Jun 28, 2004.

  1. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    stupid not paying attention and f-ing up the tags

    Jerry Trecker
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    Spirit 2, Courage 1; Charge 2, CyberRays 0 (San Francisco Chronicle)

    (7,123 at the doubleheader - good luck reviving WUSA, folks)

    As for the history bit:

    On this date.....
    • 1998 - The US Women's National Team defeats Germany 4-2 at Soldier Field in Chicago behind a hat trick by Mia Hamm.
    • 2000 - The Colorado Rapids defeat the Dallas Burn 1-0 at Mile High Stadium in Denver. Announced paid attendance: 4,640.

    Today's Birthdays
    • Brian Maisonneuve is 31
    • John Cusack is 38
     
  3. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    Is it just me or does it seem that the WUSA has gotten a disproportionate amount of press in USA Today? With only a few thousand showing up for these revival events and none of even the local papers of these events or towns of former teams not giving them ink it seems odd that they get regular coverage in the paper.
     
  4. stinky

    stinky Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY

    sounds like the metrostars nightmare all over again....it'll be 9 years after they join and we'll be waiting for an announcement on the bond issue...

    its nice to see these guys are willing to put of the money, but salt lake city?

    it seems 10K is becoming the norm as far as attendance goes this season without the freddy show (which is wearing off a bit)...and its doesn's seem that the any team playing a team from Salt Lake City would do much to create a buzz around the local market.....

    we went from what seemed to be 2 definite expansion cities in 2005 and 2 more likely in 2006 to 1. and that one is to play in an existing mls city and stadium....

    so much for expanding the footprint....

    this league needs a boost of some sort, what sort, i have no idea.
     
  5. amek33

    amek33 New Member

    Apr 27, 2004
    Newton, MA
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    I hope hope hope they can revive it! The Breakers games were so fun...
     
  6. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Yeah, I agree. SLC seems like almost a desperation move. Seattle would add much more to MLS. Chivas in LA could be a boost for the league with the Mexican fans or it could just reduce the Gal's fan base. The only big new thing next season will probably be the new SSS for the not-Burn. At one time, 2005 looked like it was going to be the year MLS turned the corner. Now it looks like another year in limbo.
     
  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And if, in 1994, you said "Columbus? That'll be great!" then you win.

    What, exactly, would "Seattle" add to MLS? A sexy name in the agate page of your local newspaper? Now, if Seattle's team is well-financed and well-managed, then that adds something to MLS. Considering we only have bits and pieces of who might be involved in an MLS bid, I have no idea if they'd be successful or not. Outside of the very few semi-rivalries in MLS and the occasional teenage freak show, the home fans really don't get that excited about the name on the front of the visiting team's jerseys.

    I'd rather have a Salt Lake team that's well-managed than have a team in a supposed "sexy" market that's a supposed "soccer hotbed" like Miami that's run poorly. That adds something to MLS.
     
  8. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well, it was a horrible play by Ring and deservedly gets lead mention; when goalies make bad gaffes they usually stand out; both articles of course also discuss the point blank attempts that the Fire couldn't capitalize on.
     
  9. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. stinky

    stinky Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    razov complain? whine? rant?

    go on....
     
  11. Stevedm

    Stevedm Red Card

    Jan 19, 2000
    Chicago
    "By the end of that third year, our expenses were pretty much in control," Foudy says. "But we were always behind after that first year. You look up and you're $15 million in the hole and you think, 'What happened?' I'd do anything to get that year back."

    LOL, what happened Julie?? What happened?? I will tell youw hat happened, they had a bunch of feminist jackasses like yourself trying to show the men in the world how you can take over soccer in the USA instead of concentrating on trying to limit the leagues losses and build the league. Nice job!! You could have bought an awful lot of tampons for the money you used to spend on your silly little PRO-Womens movement disguised as a womens pro-soccer league. The best thing AEG did was deep-six the jackasses that ran the last league. Maybe now they can run this thing as a soccer league and not a division of NOW (National orgianization of lesbians errr women).
     
  12. BrianJames

    BrianJames Member

    Jul 30, 2000
    Chicago
    What does Seattle have to offer that is so "much more"?! No better stadium situation, if not worse, more sports competition including Baseball in the summer, and hardly a much more organized ownership at this point. SLC seems like a good option, of course, assuming that they really can get a SSS built in the next 5 years.

    After the NBA's Jazz and maybe some college sports, what will MLS have to compete with? Seems a good sign that there are TWO ownership groups forming in SLC.

    Expansion is not something you want to force, if there doesnt seem to be any good options, I could very well be counterproductive to force the issue.
     
  13. Dave Brull

    Dave Brull Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Mayfield Hts, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't tell whether SLC is a bad idea, but neither can I say it is bad idea. It intrigues me more than anything. There could easily be the possibility of another Colombus or Rochester. Those two cities have shown that you do not need population for good attendance, just good marketing and a good product on the field (as Columbus attendance drops)

    If MLS is shown a feasible marketing and stadium plan from SLC with great financial backing, I say fine. I'd rather not see another Wolstein (RIP) where MLS grants a franchise to a guy with NO plan. That would be tragic.

    But I'd say this about any other city too.
     
  14. Mr. Knowledge

    Mr. Knowledge New Member

    May 10, 2001
    Baltimore
    If Chivas USA is marketed well, it won't expand the footprint geographically per se, but it should bring more fans to MLS and even though it will be in an existing MLS City, 15-20K paying fans for another 15 weeks at the HDC will be bring a few benjamins into the league which is a good things. Should create quite a rivalry too. I'm all for it.

    I'm also all for a well run team in Salt Lake City. Altough it is not the size of a city the likes of Seattle, Houston or Philly, it is a city of probably a million people if not more, home to an NBA team, hosted the Olympics and apparently has an experienced sports industry leader (Checketts) putting an ownership group together.

    Further, I'm confident that MLS will not go there unless they have a reasonable stadium arrangement, ala the Fire's new lease agreement with Soldier Field and the Rapids arrangement w/ Invesco. The league will negotiate so they get a percentage of some of the revenue streams and rights to scheduling certain dates (saturdays). Although the stadium mentioned is not 20-30K, 45K is certainly less cavernous than Giants Stadium, the Rose Bowl, Solider Field, Foboro and Invesco.

    So if we get two new teams in the west what does this do to the conferences?
     
  15. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    Did McDill go blind over the weekend?


    Kirovski didn't control the shot, he one timed Ring's clearance, and the ball never bounced, it hit the back of the net on the fly. I know it's a bit nitpicky, but a one time shot that hits the net on the fly from 50 yards is a lot more impressive sounding than a shot that was controlled, and then bounced into the net.

    It was a nice hit, a heartbreaker for us, give the kid credit Kent.
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    Remember what Mom always used to say.....
     
  17. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    If Checketts is invovled I'm all for SLC. He's a great sports management person. Didn't anyone else notice that the knicks started to suck once he left? I'm sure Checketts has really researched this and would never have plopped down a million nonrefundable bucks if he didnt think this could work. Plus, I believe having him as owner would really help get that stadium built as he is an SLC native and is known for his connections there. I think SLC has all the potential to be another Columbus. While it may not be a huge market, at this stage in its life I think MLS is better off with solid franchises in whatever size market rather than just go for big markets and flounder, ala San Jose.
     
  18. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    something about eating spinach at dinner?
     
  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Jerry Trecker

    Sh!t, meet fan.

    No link on this, but it's in Sports Business Journal (thanks to BuffloSoldier for pointing it out to me):

    Sources: MLS will add 2 clubs in ’05
    San Jose, K.C. will relocate, insiders say


    By Jamie Trecker
    Correspondent to the Sports Business Journal – June 28, 2004

    MLS will undergo a radical makeover in 2005, with two teams joining the league and two franchises relocating, according to three high-ranking sources in U.S. Soccer and MLS.

    Without posting the article itself, here's the gist:

    1-Chivas USA in at HDC.
    2-Seattle in, with Paul Allen involvement
    3-San Jose, Kansas City relocated
    4-Dave Checketts could be ready to announce an SSS in SLC in the next few weeks

    Other than that, it's kind of a rehash. There are some non-smoking gun quotes from Garber that may not have been said in the last 48 hours. But the Allen and SJ/KC relocation pieces are new, and either he's got the scoop cold, or he's completely daft.
     
  20. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    it's jaime... he is pretty daft
     
  21. helmet

    helmet New Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Jose
    Regarding Relocation

    I'm guessing but I bet the article did not indicate to which cities KC and SJ would "relocate." I.e. which cities have suitable playing facilities in place for the relocation. Am I wrong?
     

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