5-18-2004: Bert Wolstein RIP

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by JMU Soccer!, May 18, 2004.

  1. JMU Soccer!

    JMU Soccer! New Member

    Jul 19, 1999
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brad Friedel is 33 today.
     
  3. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Player With Plenty of Exposure - NY Times

    Check the 2nd page of the Times articles. Charlie Stillitano claims he offered to set up a match between ManU and the MLS AllStars, but MLS turned him down. He probably made the offer when MLS was completing the deal with Real Madrid -- but now Real is considering cancelling the American and Asian tours due to their 3rd place finish.

    So Charlie gets the last laugh. Again.
     
  5. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    La Opinion de la Babelfish:


    It was March of 2002 when an idea was exposed publicly in this space that revoloteaba anxiously. The proposal permuted scenes: of the imagination of Alexander Burillo to the writing-desk of the Anschutz Group and of there to the table of three legs of the MLS. Burillo, then still plenipotenciario ambassador of futbol Aztec, ran the creation of an interborder league between equipment of the MLS and Mexico. It would be, in principle, the starting of a project that to a future -- that never arrived --, tried to formalize a championship that would include Central America. Now, two years later, the MLS retakes the subject and finds, again, a festive attitude between the leaders of the Mexican Federation of Futbol. They even dare to plagiarize a name with blazons and lineage, as the one of Premier League, implicit for futbol of high level that gambles in the United Kingdom. They see, with some arrangements, very possible, within its clear disorganization, to organize a match between the leagues of the United States and Mexico. If then one saw like irrazonable, because in the 2002 she was considered a lucubration of Burillo, now, suddenly, it seems an idea generated in the prodigious disléxica school of present the federal ones. He was, then, inadmissible the proposal, because it meant, strictly, to take water to the desperate mill of the MLS without a tangible benefit, neither financier, nor sport, nor cultural, for Mexico. The MLS saw in that project the great salvation put in their table, always lame by the way because of the myopic vision and with estrabismo to direct to a popular sport of an elitist way with rudeness Populists, like wanting, sometimes, to teach to the world an arrogant ability, very American, to reinventar a black thread, with whom they began to mend, very organizational, long before in 203 countries of the world. And although its euphoria seems to infect some federal Mexicans, will be prevailed the common sense, that by which Jardiel Poncela bets is less common of the senses. Entrance, in Mexico, the technicians and players complain the deficiency of an annual calendar, an overload of activity with the torneítos of the Concacaf and the new Interleague, in addition to the Liberators, the eliminatory mundialistas, the friendly games and the official matches. He raises to add to a confrontation internments would finish saturating an agenda that already is, in addition to stuffed, terribly organized. For futbol of the United States it is a great opportunity. Instead of which its league takes those prolonged, absurd and principescas vacations, would have a substantial alternative. Surely if MetroStars or the same Galaxy visits America, the Aztec stage is a propitious space more for the meditation and the relaxation that the soccer euphoria. Opposite case, America, with its cut of braggarts, can fill the New York or angelino scene. The MLS harvests and the FMF emprobrece to their clubs. Now, if this it is the departure point for a global sport interchange, in all the sports, because welcome. He will be huge to see 4 Fantastic of Lakers playing in the audience of the CODE in Guadalajara against the Pozoleros de Jalisco. When they pay the visit who will go to the Staples Center? He will be fabulous that the Yankees of New York appear to play series of four parties against the Rieleros de Aguascalientes and they fill its stage to them, because surely! it will happen the same when the Rieleros arrives at the Yankee system Stadium. It can imagine to the Cattle tenders of Scythes playing reciprocal visit against the Tecolotes of the UAG? It will be a maddening experience for the texanos leaders and their followers! That is to say, the heads of the NBA, NFL and MLB would pass away of an sudden attack of hilaridad if the Mexican sport did a proposal to them similar to which the MLS tries to endilgar in the pizpiretos, semiwide-awake, audacious and wise Mexican leaders who have festinado the proposal. Within this I generate of the TLC, the new TLD, Treaty of Free Sport, one imagines to the five times champion of the Tour of France, Sends Armstrong competing in Classic of Tatepozco on full pavement of edges and the pockets, later to invite to the Mexican cyclists to the Classic one of Colorado? Huge! Even, this interrelation can prosper at other levels: the Vaqueritas de Dallas would terribly undergo in the direct competition in a duel of porristas and entertainers, in the brutal shock of choreographies, when they face the Pitayitas de Huentitán, or when our Lakers Girls faces the Purépechas de Morelia. This proposal of the MLS and the submissive self-denial whereupon it has received the FMF, revive headed of a Mexican newspaper by the end of 70s, when the government signed an multiagreement with Chile: "Mexico for Chile and Chile for the Mexicans". Yes, it would be the same.
     
  6. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    ENGLISH! Motherfvcker! Do you speak it?!
     
  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that's how it went down.

    Which, knowing this place, will probably be the accepted wisdom before noon Eastern.
     
  8. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    To me, it seemed just about as much clarity as can be expected from La Opinion.
     
  9. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    UGH! I am older than Brad Friedel. I guess I always knew it. Just hurts to read it here.
     
  10. kpaulson

    kpaulson New Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Washington DC
    My favorite line in the whole article is actually the above: the idea (of the North American Premiership) went from the imagination of Burillo to the desk of the Anshutz group, and from there, to the three legged table of MLS.

    The idea being that MLS is a slipshod organization. I love the league more than any other, but there's an element of trust to this and I laughed out loud thinking that Garber has a desk that doesn't sit evenly on four legs.

    The gist of the article is pretty insulting but also not entirely without reason: the NY Yankees will fill up the stadium if they visited Mexico, but how many people would come to see a Mexican pro baseball team in Yankee Stadium? The point being that the MFL doesn't gain much from the NA Premiership- DC United ain't gonna fill Azteca.

    Of course, the article ignores the ethnic element to this: the tons of fans that show up to Mexican team friendlies in the US aren't doing it because Club America is the world's biggest team-- they're largely doing it because Club America is their native country's biggest team (by the same token, a Mexican pro basketball or baseball team visiting in the US would likely attract a reasonably large audience of Mexican if they were facing the Lakers or the Yankees). So the MFL would gain exposure to fans up here.
     
  11. NEKSoccer

    NEKSoccer Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Long Island, NY
    All together now....

    HAPPY BIRTH-DAY TO YOU!!!
    HAPPY BIRTH-DAY TO YOU!!!
    HAPPY BIRTH-DAY DEAR BRAD FRIEDEL!!!
    HAPPY BIRTH-DAY TO YOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ;)
     
  12. uclacarlos

    uclacarlos Member+

    Aug 10, 2003
    east coast
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Re: Wait-- you mean that's their first team that's been playing?

    Basically the article states that MFL has little to gain b/c its clubs are much better on the field and at the bank. They compared MLS wanting to play a tourney w/ MFL to the baseball team Rieleros of Aguascalientes wanting to play the Yankees, or Tecos (owls) of Guadalajara playing the Dallas Cowboys. Sure, the Yanks and the Cowboys would sell out in Mexico, but the matches in the US would be empty. Likewise, sure, Club America, chivas and others would sell out in the US, but nobody in Mexico is interested in seeing the Rapids.
     
  13. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    That's it -- I have the name for my rock band.

    Babelfish is fun. Apparently not to Trevor, though.
     
  14. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    I don't have a problem with Babelfish, per se. I just would have had an easier time digesting it if it wasn't a gigundous paragraph of diarrea.

    Plus, why pass on an opportunity to quote Jules Winnfield?
     
  16. efren95

    efren95 Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Republic of Texas
    Trevor:

    Ignore this asinine, abhorrent, impudent translation.

    Too bad I'm on my way out to work; otherwise I would offer a more literal and --hopefully-- exact translation.

    They should call the service "Babel Tower"...

    :mad:
     
  17. efren95

    efren95 Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Republic of Texas

    Wrong. This horrible translation is the most unfair portrait of Rafael Ramos Villagrana, undoubtedly the best Spanish soccer writer in the U.S.

    Furthermore, I would dare to say that his agile prose and profund knowledge of Spanish syntaxis is superior to that of 90% of Mexican reporters.

    You should read the "killing grammar" coming from some of the Mexican newspapers on the Web. Most of the reporters hardly graduated from High School.
     
  18. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    From the article.
     
  19. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dick Pound?
     
  20. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    Hey, I'm sure he could go by Richard if he really needed to.
     

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