So... Who is going to finish in fourth at the end of the season? And where do you think the rest will end up? 4th Liverpool 5th Everton 6th Aston Villa 7th Man City 8th Blackburn 9th Portsmouth
I think Liverpool will take the 4th spot but only by a few points. We are currently in 4th and have winnable games on the horizon and if we keep plucking away it's achievable. City's poor away form won't help them and although Villa have a great team their squad is threadbare. 4th Liverpool 5th Everton 6th Man City 7th Aston Villa 8th Portsmouth 9th Blackburn
Liverpool are the favourites I would guess. They have a stronger side than most. If Manchester City recover their form they are still in with a shout although I fear their squad may be too small still. Aston Villa are flying and look to be a good bet but they're only a point ahead and at this stage of the seasopn there is plenty of time to fall away. Everton look to be very good but the ACoN may yet de-rail their bid for 4th. Squad size outside o the top 4 is what will ultimately spoil things for these sides. I'd l;ike to see Villa or Everton but you can't discount Portsmouth, Blackburn or Man City if they get some form going and Liverpool continue to stumble. Tottenham are also making their way up the table too but it may be too late for them......
I'm not sure anymore, I thought Liverpool would have edged it but with their tough fixture list and the derby coming up soon, Everton could nick it. Should be pretty tight.
Indeed it does. His form is amazing at the moment and as such they look to be the favourites. Rafa's comments today that they're back in the title race are a bit silly though.....
Would you disagree with the statement that without Torres, Liverpool's hopes of fourth are in much greater jeopardy? Apart from maybe Gerrard, I don't think you can make that statement about the rest of the people you mentioned.
The other 10 players on the pitch have been working to provide service to Torres as well...its not as if he collects the ball of Reina in defence and runs the field himself...without the rest of the team he wouldnt get the ball. Despite all this though he is an extremely important player but he is part of a team with 11 players on the field at one time and without them he wouldnt have as many goals. Without Mascherano, Carra, Hyypia, Skrtel and Reina we would have conceded many more goals and been dominated for long periods of time in matches which wouldve made Torres have to defend more often and take him further away from goal. Also without Gerrard, his service wouldnt have been of as high quality. Also without Kuyt he wouldnt have had so much support or space through the centre of the field...eg when he plays with Crouch he has to drift out wide and his effectiveness is diminished. Anyway...back on topic...LIVERPOOL FOR 4TH if we get a result vs the scum.
Are you kidding!!!!! Tottenham are 20 points behind Liverpool. Look at the table, duh. With 7 games remaining. Every single team from 4th - 10th would have to lose every single game and Spurs win all 7 to get 21 points and get to 60 points. B/C some of these teams play each other, someone has to earn points somewhere.
makes me laugh these people saying torres as if we are using an illegal player to get an unfair advantage, you can use the same formula with United, no Ronaldo = no Title for sure
absoulte crap. whereas of course liverpool have more players than just torres, he is their key weapon and without him they would be one boring outfit. they would have kuyt, crouch or voronin up front. we would have tevez, rooney or saha in our attack. still potent enough to win the title and entertain. another way of looking at it, if we had lost ronnie to injury and you had lots torres to injury for the majoority of the season, who would have been effected the most? no doubts for that one.
how can hypothetical speculation suddenly become fact just becasue you say it? the only facts are that united are top of the epl with ronaldo and liverpool are struggling for 4th with torres.
What you still refuse to acknowledge is that we are competing for the title and you are languishing back in fourth spot. I thought this was meant to be THE year... particularly after your huge outlay during the summer. Take the best performing player out of any club and you would see a hit but at least Man Utd have plently of superb players outside of Ronaldo. Liverpool do not have many outside of Torres. That was the fundamental point being made here. Unless you are trying to claim that Kuyt, Crouch and Voronin are any good. No Torres = 5th at best.