$400 Million Stadium & Expansion Plan For Tampa

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Steve Spencer, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. Steve Spencer

    Steve Spencer Member

    Jan 7, 1999
    Palm Harbor, FL
  2. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    The writer of that article seems to really need to do his research.

    He seems to be under the impression that "most MLS teams play in sprawling football stadiums that are less than a third full."

    Wake me up when these guys realize its not 2002 anymore.
     
  3. CakeYear

    CakeYear Member

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    Jun 22, 2007
    Inglewood, Ca.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Outside of college football, Florida is terrible in attendance for pro sports
     
  4. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    Was this post meant to be sarcastic?
     
  5. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    'Sprawling football arenas where many MLS teams now play aren't suitable for soccer, Garber said in his state-of-the-league report.' Did he really say the -where many MLS teams now play' part?
    Its not true. Two teams play in large football arenas in fact most play in their own dedicated soccer specific stadiums.
     
  6. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Four, not two.

    DC, Vancouver, NE and Seattle all play in football stadiums. Seattle is obviously not a concern.
     
  7. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    You're right but Seattle doesn't count for me because its the perfect spot in Seattle to pull in an average of 43K per game. Can't wait for the day that Seattle does get the mecca of soccer specific stadiums. How big should it be? 50-55K? I think they're waiting for technology or turf science to catch up to getting some sort of better grass rather than build a new stadium.
     
  8. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    I get so confused! Canada has football? :) Point being Garber did not say that most MLS teams play in football stadiums.
     
  9. Mstars96

    Mstars96 Member

    Jul 13, 2003
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    are you nuts? Tampa sucks for sports, at least Orlando is nuts for its Magic, Bucs were a joke, rays and lightning are not far behind.
     
  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You might be waiting a long time for that when you think of how little would be gained from shelling out $500m or so.
     
  12. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Waiting for a soccer specific stadium or waiting on turf technology to improve? I mentioned both in my posts as possibilities.
     
  13. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Isn't there a bigger chance of Seattle filling the stadium they have than getting a new one of their own?
     
  14. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Neither is Vancouver. Their stadium situation is fine.
     
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  15. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Neither is DC. Aside from the fact that their stadium is falling apart.

    (I'm joking of course.)
     
  16. Steve Spencer

    Steve Spencer Member

    Jan 7, 1999
    Palm Harbor, FL
    Hey Genius,

    The Lightning drew 18,468 per game last season, eighth-best in the NHL among teams in the US. The Rays local television ratings are top-3 in MLB, compared to other markets. And the Bucs were sold out for 10 straight seasons until an overhaul of the team and ticket policies in 2009.

    As for the Magic, their attendance improved in 07 with the emergence of Dwight Howard and a new arena. Before that they were bottom of the league. http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2005
    This year attendance is off, despite being a one-team town.
     
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  17. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Waiting for a team to spend close to $500m for a 50k stadium when they already control most of the revenues where they play now. While it sounds wonderful, it makes no sense financially unless they don't pay for it themselves.
     
  18. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    I agree that's why in my post I said that Seattle won't be doing that and said they are waiting for turf science to catch up so they then could put grass or a better sythnthetic grass in. I would love to see a huge sss in Seattle but its not going to happen any time soon.
     
  19. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I don't want to take this too far off topic, but assuming a future where the sounders average 50k+(or for arguments sake 60k+) wouldn't the current arrangement be workable indefinitely? other than ownership the situation seems pretty perfect.
     
  20. GVPATS77

    GVPATS77 Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Fullerton, CA
    The only real scenario in which Seattle getting an SSS really makes sense is if the current ownership group decides to sell, and the new ownership group for some reason no longer gets the benefit of controlling ancillary revenues at Qwest.
     
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  21. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure you guys saw this tweet from Wahl, but a source in MLS seems to think this is vaporware.


    Grant Wahl (@GrantWahl)
    11/29/12, 1:13 PM
    High-ranking MLS official very skeptical of proposed $400M Tampa soccer stadium. Says reminiscent of pie-in-the-sky Las Vegas proposals.
     
  22. Mstars96

    Mstars96 Member

    Jul 13, 2003
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, I lived in central florida, half the attendance cheering for the other team, been to chicago vs tampa games, when the Hawks scored that place went wild, saw Yankees vs Rays same thing after a Jeter Homerun, went to a Bucs vs Giants game, I saw a lot of blue.
    The transplants that live in the Tampa area are not Soccer fans, so the attendance for a tampaMLS team wouldn't wouldn't have the same success, remember the Mutiny?

    Not a genius, just know what I'm talking about because I saw it.
     

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