4/30/03: Salty

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jmeissen0, Apr 30, 2003.

  1. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    lil back tracking by Carrerri there. still don't like that attitude but at least he's saying that he understands the coach is his boss.
     
  3. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not an MLS story, but

    For Courage players, success not about money (WRAL-TV)

    The amazing thing is how many newspapers in non-MLS cities picked up the AP McBride story. Doubtless there would have been more were it not for the Conspiracy.
     
  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    ya know i think one effect that the WC had was that local media outlets understand the importance and signifigance of local players getting a call up to the national team. seems to me that there are always a lot of stroies about that now automatically.

    and Richie Williams making his journalistic debut with the Newark Star Ledger.
     
  6. SnakeEyes

    SnakeEyes Member

    Oct 7, 2001
    It's unreal what has happened. It was in the final stages. The city, like all leaders in the area, got cold feet and backed out.

    BTW... this story was on the front page of the paper.
     
  7. SnakeEyes

    SnakeEyes Member

    Oct 7, 2001
    DM Register didn't pick up the AP story but it did have a small blurb at the top of Sports, page two, with a soccer ball graphic and "American Soccer Team Picked", "US coach Bruce Arena an all-Major League Soccer roster Tuesday for the American's exhibition game against Mexico on May 8th in Houston."
     
  8. stinky

    stinky Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY

    decent, but too short.

    ;)
     
  9. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bruce Arena, however, loved the story and plans to read it over and over and over again, no matter what anyone else thinks.
     
  10. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    regards to the philly story-
    "A handful of teams are close to making money; the others are losing money," Garber said. "But there is more interest in investing in the league than ever before."

    come on, how does one not laugh at that??? i mean you are trying to get to the Eagles to buy a franchise and the best you can say is 'they are close to making money'.

    btw, if this was the Factor, mr O'Reilly would say garber is spinning. what he said is just another way of saying all the teams are losing money.

    and wow! theres a whole forum on it expansion here
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=35
     
  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would imagine what you'd tell the Eagles is "The teams closest to making money are the ones with good stadium deals, or their own stadia, and that could be you."

    I doubt very much that statements you make to a newspaper are your primary means of communicating the value proposition to a potential investor.
     
  12. retnicf

    retnicf Member

    May 7, 2001
    Mount Vernon, NY
    I'm curious to see if these stories made the print versions of the newspaper. It's one thing for the website to post a quick AP article. It's another to actually put it into print.
     
  13. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
  14. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    you're right about that. there are soem really high quality ones, a lot of "Football Clubs" floating around though. don't really like seeing that but hey, its their league.
     
  15. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the Newark Star-Ledger:

    "'I have a lot of faith in FIFA,' said Heather O'Reilly, the talented 18-year-old forward from East Brunswick who is a rising star with the national team."

    Something only an 18 year old could say. :D
     
  16. guamster

    guamster Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Winnetka, CA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Guam
    From the Springfield newspaper:

    "The Wizards have two players with local ties in former SMS player Chris Brunt and Jack Jewsbury, a Kickapoo High School..."

    Kickapoo? I bet their rivals have a good time with that name during sporting events.
     
  17. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Kickapoo High School Chiefs manage to combine a school name to snicker at with a politically incorrect mascot. Not a combination you see often.
     
  18. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    If you were a USWNT member, you would probably also think that FIFA is taking good care of your team.
     
  19. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS needs to do some rethinking on the $10 million expansion fee.

    It's going to be very tough, if not impossible, for the league to find investors willing to fork out $10 million to join the league since any new I/O will find himself subsidizing the losses of the Metros, etc, with the operating profit from his own team.

    I'd say a more reasonable expansion fee would be $3 million or so. A fee of this level is not high enough relative to the other costs of creating an expansion team that it would be particularly onerous or irksome to the new I/O, and yet it places at least some positive value on the new expansion team.

    Once the league becomes profitable -- after stemming the losses of the Metros, DC, etc, and by hopefully adding some profitable expansion franchises -- the expansion fee could be raised to $10 million or higher.

    But in the meantime, MLS should bite the bullet and reduce the expansion fee in order to attract expansion teams and improve its chances to survive beyond 2006.
     
  20. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe. Except (a) you've set the price already, and setting a new team at $3 million sets the price lower. It's like if someone starts building houses in your neighborhood that cost $85,000 and yours costs $250,000. Maybe since it's basically just Phil and Lamar and Kraft in this, that's not such a big deal, I don't know. And (b) expansion fees traditionally get spread around. $3 million isn't going to go very far among the other 9 franchises.
     
  21. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Horowitz pay a $20 million expansion fee? So it appears they've already lowered it. Just not enough, IMO.
     
  22. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could it go lower? Sure, but it isn't ever going to 3mil. It might go to some inflation adjusted equivalent to the original 5mil, but it won't go lower than that.
     

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