3/9/03: Bacon

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by jmeissen0, Mar 9, 2003.

  1. ChuckA

    ChuckA New Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    I know this get's said over and over again, but how the hell is it an upset?

    "The United States has beaten Mexico in five of the last six meetings under head coach Bruce Arena, who has the most wins of any U.S. national team coach."
     
  2. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    because it wasn't


    he knows better too
     
  3. La Brujita

    La Brujita New Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    If Adu went from Ghana to England at age 8 would the headline still be Ghana's wonder kid? I love the BBC but let's talk Owen Hargreaves shall we.
     
  4. Send an e-mail. I've already taken the piss out of the BBC.

    sport.online@bbc.co.uk
     
  5. SgtSchultz

    SgtSchultz Member

    Jul 11, 2001
    Parts Unknown
    You just have to love the foreign press regarding Adu. For so long they have patronized our growth as a soccer playing nation. Now we may have a possible superstar in our youth system and the press are already claiming he is not really American. They just can't accept the fact we are improving.
     
  6. La Brujita

    La Brujita New Member

    Feb 9, 2002
    FWIW I thought willydonc had a pretty good idea and I wrote a polite letter.
     
  7. Gotberg

    Gotberg Member

    Nov 14, 2002
    Chicago
    I too wrote a polite letter to the BBC.

    I also mentioned that a goal would be to get journalists to refer to Major League Soccer as MLS and not The MLS.
     
  8. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    kid has some amazing intuition for a 13 year old.
     
  9. JCUnited

    JCUnited Member

    Oct 7, 2002
    South Bend, IN
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Two very good articles stand out. Kudos to the people who are expanding the Southlake parking lot in order to get more seats into the stadium. Love the effort.

    Also the Rusnak article on MLS not coming back to South Florida anytime soon is interesting. It puts to rest the long held rumor that Horowitz still has the investor rights to the market (Garber says he doesn't) and it show even more positives to the contraction: enabled MLS/SUM to get World Cup rights, helped to finance the stadiums in Carson and Dallas and look into stadiums for D.C. and NY/NJ. Sad to see Fusion go, but it seems that the contraction is one of the best (if not the best) moves MLS has made in the last seven years. The league is so much stronger now, and if the stadium deals go through as it looks like they will, the league will be even stronger.

    My Thought: if stadiums do go up for the Burn and the Metros, and some leeway can be made for a United park, plus expansion in 2005 starts strong, there is no way the investors will shut down MLS in 2006. My day is good.
     
  10. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution


    This is interesting. There was always a lot of talk on these boards that key to the development of socer would be players from 94-98 era gettign into the community as coaches, and there's always the hope that they'll continue to breed little soccer players. Maybe I'm reading a little too much into it, granted Ty Keough's lineage is pretty good.
     
  11. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After reading the Hugo Sanchez interview:
    ...and reading the quotes from the current Mexico coach, Ricardo Lavolpe:
    I can only conclude that the current conventional wisdom amongst the Powers That Be in Mexican soccer is that the way to improve the Mexican national team and to stop losing to the United States on a regular basis is to play more games against South American opponents and fewer games against local opponents -- like the United States.
     
  12. Another dozen years or so & we could be discussing young Mr. Klinsman.
     
  13. buffalo

    buffalo New Member

    Jul 12, 2002
    Buffalo
    The English suck, they know that the US will pass them in the next 10 years. Imagine the impact of Owen Hargreaves if he played for Canada. Instead the English plucked him away. Keep the heat on the bbc and keep emailing.
     
  14. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, the less they play us, the less frequently they will lose to us :)

    Biggest problem is, every time they play us here, it's a huge payday for their federation, as it is for ours, so looks like they'll just have to keep losing to us.
     
  15. sljohn

    sljohn Member

    Apr 28, 2001
    Out of town
    Also from the BBC article:

    I remember hearing about this Blatter "initiative" several months ago. It is interesting to finally see it mentioned in reference to Adu when all the earlier articles have said that Adu is now "cap-tied".

    I really can't see this being an issue for Adu, anyway. And, I'd bet that Arena would play Adu to a Senior Nationals friendly if Blatter ever got the rule through!
     
  16. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    i don't see it being an issue either


    but it also wouldn't matter if arena put adu on the senior side for a match either, as it wouldn't warp him to the age of 18... he'd still be younger than 18... which is what the rule is about

    and honestly, i like the idea (of the proposed rule)
     
  17. sljohn

    sljohn Member

    Apr 28, 2001
    Out of town
    Looking at it strictly from a World Cup perspective:
    1. Mexico won their group and we didn't.
    2. We had just gotten blown-out by Poland and (some would say) "snuck-in" to the second round.
    3. We totally sucked in the previous WC.
    4. We had never won a knock-out WC game before.

    Now, in retrospect, it looks a lot less like an upset, but at that time Mexico was the favored team.
     
  18. sljohn

    sljohn Member

    Apr 28, 2001
    Out of town
    Okay, duh, I obviously didn't read my own quote very well. I had remembered (perhaps misremembered?) the earlier news about Blatter's proposal talking about national youth teams.

    I agree, I also like the rule, and now that I think about it a cutoff of age 18 makes more sense than how I had remembered it (otherwise you could have a player appear on the U-23 and Olympic squads and then change their mind?!).
     

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