2nd game: USA VS. Argentina (r)

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  1. jpg75

    jpg75 Member

    Jun 11, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Now that the rosters have been released we can anticipate the USA-Argentina lineups. The Argies brought their A squad and the US is a second-tier selection...what does everyone think of these lineups?

    ---------------Keller---------------
    Wynne----DeMerit-Conrad---Born./Pearce
    ---------------Clark----------------
    Nguyen-------Feilhaber---------Mapp
    ----------Johnson--Twellman--------

    -----------Tevez-----Crespo---------
    -----------------Messi---------------
    ----------Riquelme------Aimar---------
    ----------Mascherano-Cambiasso------
    Zanetti---Ayala--Diaz/Ibarra?-Milito/Burd.?
    -------------Abbondanzierri-----------
     
  2. ManUsucks

    ManUsucks New Member

    May 14, 2007
    NJ
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    it's pitting boys against men, the US has no chance against a far more experienced argentina squad

    ---------------Keller---------------
    Pearce----DeMerit-Conrad---Bornstein
    ---------------Clark----------------
    Nguyen-------Feilhaber---------Mapp
    ----------Johnson--Twellman--------

    i dont think argentina will use the playes you mentioned, i think theyll want to go easy and rest their better players for their later games
     
  3. roxbury

    roxbury Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    ManUsucks

    Agreed on your comment about line up.



     
  4. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Argentina dont need 12 players.

    -------------------Crespo
    --------Tevez------------------Messi
    --------------------JRR
    ----------Mascherano----Cambiasso

    Not sure about the defense, although Zanetti is a RB not LB, Heinze normally plays a lot of CB for them LB for ManUNited, to get the LB nod I wonder. Maybe:
    Heinze---------Ayala----Milito-------Zanetti

    Would like to get to see Gago play in one of the Cm spots.
     
  5. jpg75

    jpg75 Member

    Jun 11, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Yeah, someone else pointed that out earlier in another thread...

    GolTv just reported the probable starters for Argentina:

    -------Abondanzierri------
    Zanetti-Ayala-Milito-Heinze
    ------Gago-Cambiasso----
    -----Veron----Riquelme---
    ------Messi---Tevez/Crespo
     
  6. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Argentina's squad is tricky. There are so many quality players that it's hard to choose.

    This is what I'd like to see:

    --------------Pato
    Zanetti-Ayala-Milito-Heinze
    ----------Mascherano
    --Messi----------------Cambiasso
    -----------Riquelme
    -----Tevez---------Crespo

    This is what Basile will probably use considering recent friendlies and whatnot:

    -------------Pato
    -Zanetti-Ayala-Milito-Heinze
    -------------Gago
    ---Lucho------------Cambiasso
    -----------Riquelme
    -----Messi----------Crespo
     
  7. Danilo-11

    Danilo-11 Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Venezuela
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Excellent analisys
    except that you forgot about the fact that Maracaibo is the hottest city in Venezuela and that will help the US that by now should be completely adapted to hot weather.
     
  8. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    I hope not. Mascherano has to start. How about something like this?

    ..............Pato
    Zanetti-Ayala-Milito-Heinze
    .......Gago----Mascherano
    ....Messi......Riquelme
    ..........................Tevez
    ............Crespo
     
  9. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Who are these guys? Some of these players I am not familiar with. But when you give new guys the opportunity, maybe they will play with heart. Who knows, maybe it will be an improvement over the team that is playing the gold cup. I know they're in the final, but they haven't really played that well.

    And Keller has done well in the past against Argentina.
     
  10. dmike

    dmike Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Im guessing the 3 guys that may give Argentina fits would be Feilhaber,Mapp and Nguyen. Their very creative with the ball and play you straight up. Thing is this is gonna be their first taste of real international play and god knows how they will handle it. Im sure Feilhaber should be the best out there considering he played in a couple Champion League games for HSV this past season and impressed.

    Im guessing we will bunker alot but that would be pretty pointless with an unexperienced lineup. I hope Bob just lets them play even if we get killed.

    Im pretty confident with our backline though. Conrad plays with lots of confidence and gets better every time. Demerit is decent but I just think hes gonna get schooled out there. Wynne and Pearce on the other hand are huge enigmas for this tournament.
     
  11. jpg75

    jpg75 Member

    Jun 11, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Except the US has been based out of Chicago since Sunday and will be travelling down to Venezuala on Monday with 2 days to train together prior to the game on Thursday. Argentina landed in Maracaibo this Thursday and trained together yesterday so they'll have a week to adapt to the heat and each other....
     
  12. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    i disagree because this is the hardest group, and Argies have had trouble with Colombia in the past and if they dont finish 1st in the group then they will ahve to meet brasil before the final which they dont want. The 1st game is very very important for all teams have a good 1st game and u will have confidence and less trouble to qualify because realistially all u need is 4 poitns to get to the 2nd round (best 2 3rds make it)

    the way i see this group is
    Argentina is best team here but have not been playin well lately
    Colombia cant score w/ strikers(hope its fix'd come next week)
    Paraguay cant win w/ new coach
    US sending a very experimental team
     
  13. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    can you give me bios and current clubs for the back line of the Usians?

    never heard of them in international futbol
     
  14. bobo81

    bobo81 Member

    Nov 17, 2005
    Ciudad De Dios
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    OMG looking at those line ups...It will be like WC06, who will score? Everyone on that team needs help. EJ and Taylor cannot do jack...R.I.P. Team USA
     
  15. IncaEnclave

    IncaEnclave Member

    Aug 24, 2000
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    to Efer:

    Regarding the US backline here's some info:

    Marvell Wynne-Defender (Fullback)-Plays for Toronto FC; great speed and impressed at Under-20 World Cup a couple of years ago enough to be picked first last year in the MLS entry draft by RedBull New York; has not really impressed at the club stage, lacks technique and is a liability as a wingback; however has great athleticism and bloodlines (father was a Major League Baseball player)

    Jay Demerit-Defender (Watford)-Late bloomer as I believe he's in his late 20s; played in the premiership last year as a regular starter for a Watford side that ended up getting regulated; famous for his goal in the First Division playoff that got Watford promotion to the premiership a year ago. Average defender with good size but average speed; seems dependable but not really an exciting prospect

    Jonathan Bornstein-Wingback (Chivas USA)-Came out of nowhere to win MLS Rookie of the Year last year and is converted forward; good speed and pushes forward well; still lacks maturity for his position and makes mistakes; an above average prospect for his position

    Heath Pearce-Wingback-Not sure where he plays; I believe in Scandinavia in either Norway or Denmark; haven't seen much of him.
     
  16. MountainHawk

    MountainHawk New Member

    Sep 7, 2005
    Salem, MA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Argentina practiced today with what is the probable starting line-up:

    --------------Pato
    -Zanetti-Ayala-Milito-Heinze
    -----------Mascherano
    ---Veron--------------Cambiasso
    ------------Riquelme
    -------Messi--------Crespo
     
  18. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    My ideal line-up would be the following:

    Carrizo;
    Zanetti-Ayala-Milito-Heinze;
    Mascherano;
    Lucho Gonzalez-Messi;
    Riquelme;
    Crespo-Tevez​

    If Riquelme plays like he has been with Boca, then I'd more than welcome him as a starter. If he plays like he did with the NT lately (2006 World Cup + 2005 Confederations Cup final), then I'd prefer to give Pablo Aimar a chance.

    I don't think Basile will use this line-up, but it is the one I'd like to see most.
     
  19. WittyNickname

    WittyNickname Member

    Jun 12, 2006
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    does Mapp normally play on the left? just curious...
     
  20. Yo_soy_rayado5

    Jun 16, 2006
    El Norte
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    good luck getting out of group stage usa!
     
  21. Yo_soy_rayado5

    Jun 16, 2006
    El Norte
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    why wont they use Tevez??
     
  22. JediMindTricks

    Jun 20, 2006
    Houston
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    probably left out of the starting xi to veron can be included.
     
  23. Sagacious

    Sagacious Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    This will be Argentina Starting 11

    GK: Abbondanzieri (Getafe-ESP)

    DF: Zanetti (Inter-ITA), Ayala (Villarreal-ESP), Milito (Zaragoza-ESP), Heinze (Manchester United-ENG);

    MF: Verón (Estudiantes), Mascherano (Liverpool-ENG), Cambiasso (Inter-ITA);

    AMF: Riquelme (Villarreal-ESP);

    FW: Messi (FC Barcelona-ESP); Crespo (Inter-ITA)
     
  24. Sagacious

    Sagacious Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    Can someone tell me why Veron is included?
     
  25. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    Re: USA-Argentina possible lineups?

    He had a very good season last year in Argentina where he led his club to the league championship.

    But yeah I have no idea why he's starting. I think almost everyone wanted to see Messi play on the right and Tevez up front with Crespo.
     

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