211 to 1: World Cup 2026 Elimination Timeline (R)

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  1. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oddly enough, I don't believe anyone has started this thread yet and we already have a few eliminations already. 3 teams qualify as hosts: USA, Mexico, Canada, and 208 teams are battling it out for qualification. Although, I'm not sure what to make of Russia atm but I think they are suspended and not yet completely eliminated. We had our first official eliminations today from AFC then I guess:

    211. Guam
    210. Mongolia
    209. Cambodia
    208. Sri Lanka
    207. Timor-Leste
     
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  2. glennaldo_sf

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    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    205. Maldives
     
  4. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    205. Bhutan
    204. Laos

    And unless they can conjure up 12 goals in the last 10 minutes Brunei are going to be #203
     
  5. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    211. Guam
    210. Mongolia
    209. Cambodia
    208. Sri Lanka
    207. Timor-Leste
    206. Macau
    205. Maldives
    204. Laos
    203. Brunei

    That actually sounds like a pretty cool backpacking trip......
     
  6. DCW531

    DCW531 Member

    City SC
    Jan 31, 2017
    St. Louis, MO
    You have two different teams listed at 205?
     
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  7. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D'oh good point... Maldives match was definitely before the Bhutan / Laos game which was played simultaneously, Bhutan's ending minutes before Laos though....

    211. Guam
    210. Mongolia
    209. Cambodia
    208. Sri Lanka
    207. Timor-Leste
    206. Macau
    205. Maldives
    204. Bhutan
    203. Laos
    202. Brunei
     
  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you. I wasn't following qualifying as much as I used to. Nobody else can be eliminated until March.
     
  9. glennaldo_sf

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    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, that's assuming no withdraws for bans.....
     
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    Real Madrid
    Morocco
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  11. glennaldo_sf

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    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was actually in Eritrea last month and managed to pull the driver over to take the requisite photo of the Cicero Stadium. Apparently the stadium is not up to standards to host CAF world cup qualifying matches and Eritrea seems to be kind of the "Cuba of Africa" in the sense that many of the players don't go back and seek asylum when they play abroad....

    Eritrea withdrew from 2026 World Cup qualifying ‘over fears players will flee’ | Football | The Guardian

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  12. glennaldo_sf

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    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going tomorrow to see Qatar v Afghanistan. Kind of surprised the game is going ahead as apparently Afghanistan had 18 players boycott, but I guess they found replacements or they backed out of it? I kept watching to see if Afghanistan would be added to this list, but looks like they are going ahead anyway...

    Afghanistan players boycott World Cup qualifier with Qatar | OneFootball
     
  13. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am assuming that CAF's comparison of second place teams will exclude games against sixth place teams like UEFA did when they had groups of five or six, but that has not been decided yet. If teams withdraw, it is better to withdraw before playing any games. In World Cup 2022 qualifying, North Korea withdrew after playing 5 games, which were taken out of the standings for the other teams.
     
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  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tried to do elimination scenarios in AFC, but it was complicated. The top two in each group advance. I may do scenarios after tomorrow's games. Teams play the same opponent on Matchday 3 and Matchday 4 this month. For now, here are the standings and schedule:

    Group A:
    Qatar 6, Kuwait 3, India 3, and Afghanistan 0
    Qatar plays Kuwait, and India plays Afghanistan.

    Group B:
    Japan 6, Korea DPR (North Korea) 3, Syria 3, and Myanmar 0
    Japan plays Korea DPR, and Syria plays Myanmar.

    Group C:
    Korea Republic (South Korea) 6, Thailand 3, China 3, and Singapore 0
    Korea Republic plays Thailand, and China plays Singapore.

    Group D:
    Malaysia 6, Oman 3, Kyrgyz Republic (Kyrgyzstan) 3, and Chinese Taipei 0
    Malaysia plays Oman, and Kyrgyz Republic plays Chinese Taipei.

    Group E:
    Iran 4, Uzbekistan 4, Turkmenistan 1, and Hong Kong 1
    Iran plays Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan plays Hong Kong.

    Group F:
    Iraq 6, Vietnam 3, Philippines 1, and Indonesia 1
    Iraq plays Philippines, and Vietnam plays Indonesia.

    Group G:
    Saudi Arabia 6, Tajikistan 4, Jordan 1, and Pakistan 0
    Saudi Arabia plays Tajikistan, and Jordan plays Pakistan.

    Group H:
    United Arab Emirates 6, Bahrain 3, Yemen 3, and Nepal 0
    United Arab Emirates plays Yemen, and Bahrain plays Nepal.

    Group I:
    Australia 6, Lebanon 2, Palestine 1, and Bangladesh 1
    Australia plays Lebanon, and Palestine plays Bangladesh.

    The first four groups have the same distribution, and have first playing second and third playing fourth. Groups E through I are five groups that have different point distributions.

    Tomorrow's first game is Pakistan vs. Jordan at 10:00 A.M. CET and 5:00 A.M. USA Eastern. Other than a half hour break, there will be at least one game continuously for twelve hours
     
  15. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pretty sure Afghanistan will be eliminated if they lose both games to India. Likewise, Myanmar must get something against Syria in their double header. Pretty sure it's the same for Singapore v China, Chinese Taipei v Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan needs something against Jordan, Nepal v Bahrain, and if I'm not mistaken two groups could be done in dusted with 2 games to spare. Should Hong Kong lose twice v Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan do the same v Iran, then the top 2 would be out of sight, and it's a similar situation for Indonesia v Vietnam and Philippines v Iraq. Things are a bit more complicated in group I with only one point between the bottom three. I don't think anyone can be eliminated from that group.

    So basically in one weeks time, we could lose some if not all of Afghanistan, Myanmar, Singapore, Chinese Taipei, Pakistan, Nepal, Hong Kong, Turkmenistan, Indonesia, and/or Philippines. Much improved Indonesia probably have the best chance to live on and fight another day vs a declining Vietnam, but I think the majority of these other teams will be eliminated unfortunately before the last group games in June. That's what I think it looks like atm, however, correct me if I'm wrong....
     
  16. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Group A:
    Qatar 3-0 Kuwait, and Afghanistan 0-0 India
    Qatar 9, India 4, Kuwait 3, and Afghanistan 1
    No team will be eliminated on March 26. Afghanistan will survive until June. If they lose in India, they will trail India by 6 points and at least 11 goal differential, so they would be realistically eliminated, but not mathematically eliminated.

    Group B:
    Japan 1-0 Korea DPR (North Korea), and Myanmar 1-1 Syria
    Japan 9, Syria 4, Korea DPR 3, and Myanmar 1
    No team will be eliminated on March 26. The point distribution is the same as in Group A, and Myanmar will be realistically but not mathematically eliminated if they lose to Syria, who has to play their home game in Saudi Arabia.

    Group C:
    Korea Republic (South Korea) 1-1 Thailand, and Singapore 2-2 China
    Korea Republic 7, Thailand 4 (+1), China 4 (-2), and Singapore 1
    Singapore will be eliminated with a loss because they would be at least 6 points behind Korea Republic, 6 points behind China, and Korea Republic and China cannot lose their last two games because they play each other.

    Group D:
    Chinese Taipei 0-2 Kyrgyz Republic (Kyrgyzstan), and Oman 2-0 Malaysia
    Oman 6 (+4), Kyrgyz Republic 6 (+2), Malaysia 6 (+0), and Chinese Taipei 0
    Chinese Taipei will be eliminated with a loss, which would make them more than 6 points behind Kyrgyz Republic and at least one of Oman or Malaysia. Chinese Taipei will be eliminated with a draw and the other game having a winner. In that case, they would be 8 points behind Oman or Malaysia, 6 points behind Kyrgyz Republic, and Kyrgyz Republic losing twice to let Chinese Taipei tie them would mean than Kyrgyz Republic lost to the loser of Malaysia vs. Oman. If both games are draws, Chinese Taipei remains alive. If that happens and Chinese Taipei and Kyrgyz Republic win their last two games, it would make a 13-7-7-7 distribution, with Chinese Taipei alive to win a three-way tie for second.

    Group E:
    Hong Kong 0-2 Uzbekistan, and Iran 5-0 Turkmenistan
    Iran 7 (+9), Uzbekistan 7 (+4), Hong Kong 1 (-6), and Turkmenistan 1 (-7)
    Turkmenistan will be eliminated if they lose and Uzbekistan does not lose hosting Hong Kong. That would make Turkmenistan 9 points behind Iran, and 7 or 9 points behind Uzbekistan. Hong Kong will be eliminated if the lose and Iran does not lose at Turkmenistan. That would make Hong Kong 9 points behind Uzbekistan, and 7 or 9 points behind Iran. In the likely event that Iran and Uzbekistan win, they advance, and Hong Kong and Turkmenistan are eliminated.

    Group F:
    Indonesia 1-0 Vietnam, and Iraq 1-0 Philippines
    Iraq 9, Indonesia 4, Vietnam 3, and Philippines 1
    No team can be eliminated. If Philippines draws or loses, they will be unable to catch Iraq, but they cannot be more than 6 points behind Indonesia and Vietnam, who will be done playing each other.

    Group G:
    Pakistan 0-3 Jordan, and Saudi Arabia 1-0 Tajikistan
    Saudi Arabia 7, Tajikistan 4 (+4), Jordan 4 (+1), and Pakistan 0
    Pakistan will be eliminated with a loss because they will be at least 7 points behind Saudi Arabia and Jordan. Pakistan will survive with a draw. In that case, they will be 4 points behind Jordan, and the most points behind second they could be is 6 if Tajikistan wins hosting Saudi Arabia. That would make a 7-7-5-1 distribution. With the two teams with 7 points done playing each other, Jordan and Pakistan could win their last two games to make an 8-7-7-7 distribution and have Pakistan win a three-way tie for second.

    Group H:
    United Arab Emirates 2-1 Yemen, and Nepal 0-5 Bahrain
    United Arab Emirates 9, Bahrain 6, Yemen 3, and Nepal 0
    Nepal cannot catch United Arab Emirates. Nepal will be eliminated with a loss, which would make them unable to catch Bahrain. Nepal will be eliminated with a draw and a Yemen win hosting United Arab Emirates. That would give Nepal 1 point and a maximum of 7. Bahrain would have 7, Yemen would have 6, and their game against each other guarantees that at least one of them will get more than 7. If United Arab Emirates and Bahrain win, Yemen will be 6 points behind Bahrain, but could catch Bahrain and win the tiebreaker, so Yemen cannot be eliminated.

    Group I:
    Australia 2-0 Lebanon, and Palestine 5-0 Bangladesh
    Australia 9, Palestine 4, Lebanon 2, and Bangladesh 1
    If Bangladesh loses, they will be unable to catch Australia, and the best they could do is tie Palestine with 7 points. In the unlikely event that Lebanon wins hosting Australia, Palestine losing twice would give Lebanon 8 points, so Bangladesh will be eliminated with a loss and a Lebanon win. Of the teams that could be eliminated, Bangladesh is most likely to survive.

    Seven possible eliminations: Singapore (C), Chinese Taipei (D), Hong Kong (E), Turkmenistan (E), Pakistan (G), Nepal (H), and Bangladesh (I)

    I hope I did that correctly.
     
  17. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think this is quite right, I'll have a go here....

    Group A: Afghanistan will be eliminated if they lose to India AND Kuwait beats Qatar on Tuesday. If that happens, even if Afghanistan win their last 2 matches, Kuwait and India play each other in June, meaning one of those two teams will pick up enough points to make their efforts meaningless. However, anything less than a Kuwaiti victory and yes they are still alive.

    B: Same story in this group, if Myanmar loses to Syria, they will be eliminated if North Korea beats Japan. Again they'll be 6 points behind Syria and 5 behind NK, but as Syria and NK play each other, 7 points wouldn't be enough for Myanmar as one of those other 2 will pass it from their game.

    C: I've got to be honest, I can't work this one out, if Singapore lose to China, they can still qualify with 2 wins and a better goal difference if China lose their last 2 games, and Thailand don't beat South Korea or something like that... this one is complicated as it's a 3-team scenario :)

    D: Chinese Taipei are eliminated with a loss, yes that's true...

    E: Yes, this group is most likely done and dusted on Tuesday should Hong Kong and Turkmentistan both lose.

    F: Yes, no team can go out I believe. And I got that prediction right about Indonesia getting one over Vietnam...

    G: Yes Pakistan go out with a loss to Jordan

    H: Yes Nepal go out with a loss to Bahrain

    I: Bangladesh would go out with a loss to Palestine, and a Lebanon win over Australia.
     
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  18. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I would just point out that Lebanon is hosting Australia in Canberra and will probably have less supporters there than they did in Sydney as there is a fairly large Lebanese expat community in the suburbs close to last nights venue. It will also be the first time I've been to an "away" qualifier.
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Korea DPR, which has not hosted since 2019, will not host Japan. The game is postponed, and the teams will probably have to play three games in June. That guarantees that Myanmar will not be eliminated on Tuesday.
     
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  20. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    FIFA announced yesterday that the Korea DPR-Japan game won't be re-arranged and a decision will be taken in due course: probably Korea DPR loses it 3-0.
     
  21. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wikipedia calls the game canceled. I have seen teams drop out during a group and have their results removed so the remaining teams have played the same amount of games. I do not know if I ever saw a group end with two teams having played six games and two teams having played five games. To advance, Korea DPR needs at least as many points from five games as Syria gets from six games, albeit there is a good chance Korea DPR would have lost hosting Japan, so Korea DPR may not cost themselves points by not playing. If Korea DPR wins hosting Syria and Myanmar, and Syria does anything other than win their other two games including at Japan, Korea DPR will advance. Here are tomorrow's 17 AFC games in chronological order to know what order teams could be eliminated in:

    1. Lebanon vs. Australia
    2. Bangladesh vs. Palestine
    3. Philippines vs. Iraq
    4. and 5. China vs. Singpore and Vietnam vs. Indonesia at the same time
    6. Thailand vs. Korea Republic
    7. India vs. Afghanistan
    8. and 9. Kyrgyz Republic vs. Chinese Taipei and Malaysia vs. Oman at the same time
    10. Uzbekistan vs. Hong Kong
    11. and 12. Tajikistan vs. Saudi Arabia and Turkmenistan vs. Iran at the same time
    13. through 17. Bahrain vs. Nepal, Jordan vs. Pakistan, Kuwait vs. Qatar, Syria vs. Myanmar, and Yemen vs. United Arab Emirates will be five games at the same time

    Starting at the same time as the last AFC games, British Virgin Islands vs. U.S. Virgin Islands will eliminate one of them, and the first leg is 1-1. Concacaf's second WCQ tomorrow and the last WCQ this month will be Turks and Caicos Islands vs. Anguilla, and the first leg was 0-0.
     
  22. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    200. Chinese Taipei
     
  23. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chinese Taipei is the first team eliminated from a group stage, and the first team eliminated from Round 2 within their confederation. As an American, I am used to a round referring to when all teams play at least once and some are eliminated. In soccer, "round" is sometimes used to refer to when every team plays one game within a group, such as the Premier League's last games being called Round 38. For that situation, I use the word "matchday."

    Bangladesh needs to make up 6 points and 18 goal differential to catch Palestine, but a goal differential tiebreaker can never be clinched in advance.

    Correcting what I typed about Group G that Pakistan survive with a draw, Tajikistan vs. Saudi Arabia is 0-0 at halftime, and if Tajikistan wins, Pakistan will be eliminated with a draw.
     
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  24. glennaldo_sf

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    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    199 + 198 - Hong Kong & Turkmenistan
     
  25. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Iran won 1-0 at Turkmenistan. That got Iran to 10 points, left Turkmenistan at 1, and today's earlier game got Uzbekistan to 10 points and left Hong Kong with 1.

    AFC's remaining five games are at the same time. Pakistan will be eliminated if they lose at Jordan. Nepal will be eliminated if they lose at Bahrain, or if they draw at Bahrain and Yemen wins hosting United Arab Emirates.
     

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