2028 Olympic Player Pool

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  1. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One difference is the men's tournament is July 10-28, approximately two weeks earlier than Paris 2024 was. Few, if any, league games will have to be missed, not even in MLS.
     
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Indeed. By then MLS will have altered their calendar to align with Europe.

    This will also help us when it comes to call ups to international events in the late spring and summer. MLS players aren't going to be missing as many first team games.
     
  3. Crewmudgeon

    Crewmudgeon Member+

    Sep 3, 1999
    Crewdom
    In prep for the 28 games i say let the U23s play in the Nations League and Gold Cup.
     
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  4. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And then the senior team just never plays together?
     
  5. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we want to win both tournaments to ensure our FIFA ranking is in the top 12 so we can get a seed in 2030.
     
  6. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah. Can you imagine the outrage if the players sits the Gold Cup again, too? I imagine that it will be a main focus to have the full team for the Gold Cup.

    For players who are good enough for Copa and young enough for the Olympics, let them choose. While it’s possible that Gozo is a starter for the full team in two years, the drop off behind him would be small enough that he should be allowed to play in the Olympics. I’d lean towards full strength U23s at the Olympics.
     
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  7. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’s eligible for the U-20s, but Gozo is an Olympic pool guy

     
  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Maybe..........................................
    Two years from now Gozo could be established as a full USMNTer on a Copa America squad.
     
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  10. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The name game of this generation is seriously top notch.
     
  11. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #61 bshredder, Jul 30, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2026
    The whole "player identification" phase for Cherundolo should be easy. Yes, there could be some late-emerging players you don't want to miss (like Sebastian Berhalter, Max Arfsten, and Alex Freeman) who were all not on the 2024 Olympic team despite being age-eligible.

    But right now, the call-ups for the first few Olympic camps this fall seem obvious. Only 15 U-23 players will make the final roster. The other three will be overagers.

    This isn't a complete list, but this is the core, if healthy (which not all are right now).

    Zavier Gozo
    Peyton Miller
    Brooklyn Raines
    Niko Tsakiris
    Benja Cremaschi
    Josh Wynder
    Ethan Kohler
    Matthew Corcoran
    Nolan Norris
    Frankie Westfield
    Luca Bombino
    Diego Kochen

    Then after the 2027 U-20 World Cup, you start working in top players - which will likely include:

    Mathis Albert
    Cavan Sullivan
    Justin Ellis
    Neil Pierre
    Julian Hall
    Adri Mehmeti

    Then maybe some more of these players emerge into top players, like Marvin Dills, or whoever.

    Then there is a chance Noahkai Banks wants to play.

    But that's the bulk of the team.
     
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  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yup. Its just a question of how many of those guys Pochettino (presumably) wants to take a look at in senior camps. Presumably the senior camps won't be the status quo. Presumably, they're talking to players like Gozo and Banks (hopefully) about which camp they'd prefer to be in.
     
  13. KickballWizard

    KickballWizard Member+

    Jun 11, 2013
    Can a national team have split squad games during international windows? I'm just curious if Cherundolo could schedule a friendly for the u23 squad at the same time as the senior usmnt friendlies, with clubs still being required to release players
     
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  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #64 Dave Marino-Nachison, Jul 30, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2026
    I'm far from an expert on the rules around this, but I think that while, sure, we could schedule multiple matches in a given window, only a first-team game would be considered official for the purposes of things like caps and callups. Now, could we use a U23 roster in a first-team game? Maybe -- especially perhaps if the opponent had the same idea and agreed to do so. Perhaps someone else here knows more of the details.
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Didn't we used to have "B" international friendlies for such a purpose?

    I seem to recall England doing that at one point.

    Those B international results weren't taken into account in FIFA ranking points and all that stuff.

    ....................but I'm pretty darn sure that callups to those teams could be declined.

    I have no issue with the September camp being a U23 camp with a few veterans for leadership.
    If we really want to call up these guys to a camp that can't be declined, then just do that.

    Cherundolo can run the camp with Poch there for alignment and scouting.

    Give the guys who played in the World Cup a window off. There's isn't one of them that the staff needs to learn more about.
     
  16. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    If the idea of a Banks-Pierre centerback pairing doesn't pump your plums then you might wanna check your pulse.
     
  17. KickballWizard

    KickballWizard Member+

    Jun 11, 2013
    And get that sand out your butt!
     
  18. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    sounds Maximum Optimal to me
     
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  19. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with bshredder that it would be better long term for a lot of these guys to excel and head the U23 / Olympic team and then move to the full team after that. It's what we used to do I think except for the very top players. He could still get some callups for the full team and especially if the U23's aren't playing or practicing in some windows.
     
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  20. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I don't think anyone is opposed to the top U23 players participating in the Olympics, even if they've already matriculated to the U23 team.

    My objection is the use of overage players who aren't elite. Like, if three of Pulisic, Balogun, Adams, McKennie, Jedi, Malik Tillman or Richards are willing and released, by all means, upgrade and go for gold.

    But if it's a choice between Diego Kochen and Matt Freese or Neil Pierre and Tristan Blackmon or Josh Sargent vs. Julian Hall, go for the kids.

    I mean, how much better did Brian McBride and Brad Guzan make the Olympic team in 2008 or Miles Robinson and Walker Zimmerman in 2024?
     
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  21. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    My take is a little different.

    If the senior team is playing an important tournament that summer that is the priority. Period. Full stop.

    The overage selections should fill specific positional weaknesses on the Olympic team.
     
  22. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    But not to go deeper than the list above. Not many older players that could make difference.
     
  23. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Pretty much every Olympic team has had three or more areas where an upgrade would have been helpful. Even from a second or third string senior player. I'll be very surprised if it is different this time.
     
  24. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Everything might change in 2 years, but as of today we have uniquely talented 2008-2011 group and pretty mediocre older bunch, where second/third stringers might be border line starters or the same second stringers for the U-23 team. Do we want them? Would they go to be back ups? Just 18 players on the roster. The standard late blooming areas are GK, CBs, CMs and strikers. We don't have game changing older keepers or CBs besides Richards. I might add Berhalter to the list, maybe Pepi, but not deeper.
     
  25. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    The 2024 team didn't do great but our underage CB options were not strong.

    Sometimes we need to fill holes. Copa will almost certainly mean we aren't getting guys like Pulisic or Adams to play in the Olympics. But if we have a nice Olympic team, we also shouldn't cripple it if Auston Trusty or someone will be filling a major weakness.
     

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