Pre-match: 2026 WCQ R-7: Colombia vs Peru (9/6/24, Friday - 9:30 PM EST)

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  1. krass

    krass Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    Worst game under Lorenzo
     
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  2. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    @HomietheClown never learns

    His name should be Homie Jamesson
     
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  3. Jace

    Jace Member

    Oct 19, 2014
    that first half was so bad. sini and rios especially.

    Arias was nonexistent. would have rather seen him at his natural wing position with James not starting.
     
  4. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    Both impressive and a little worrying. Would prefer more goals in open play.
     
  5. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Gallese got in the way
     
  6. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Give dursn snd Asprilla more minutes
     
  7. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    It's tricky to move from playing with an overload with 4 in midfield and James to no James and no overload in midfield with his lineup. Ideally you can space better with width but your midfielders have less space and time to find their passes putting more pressure on them and allowing the opposition to highlight weaker players in possession like Lerma who we can hide with the midfield 4. We can surely be good with that setup and rios/Lerma and arias are all good at what they do, but it's a totally different style than what we've been doing under Lorenzo.

    This actually would have been a game for a Borre or a Cucho if you don't play James, because both of those guys are false 9's who naturally will drop into midfield and help create a midfield 4 and take pressure off Arias and Rios to be line breakers passing and allow them to make their runs out of midfield. At the end of the day this is why we need James, because we have't adapted to play without him, I think also fitting in Yaser for one of the forwards would have also been a like for like allowing Yaser to play the James roll and he brings alot more chance creation and passing.
     
  8. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Arias is so crucial for us, especially with James playing

    but man you could tell there is a gap in talent when Yaser came in

    having Yaser and James on the field at the same time is almost mean lol.
     
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  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I missed the whole game and seems like I did not miss anything.

    Seriously I heard it on RCN radio and just watched the highlights.
    I give credit to Peru for playing much better than I anticipated. Glad we at least got a point of out it.

    Only other take away is that we played in the Copa uniforms which is a little surprising since before the Copa they said they would only be used in the Copa.
     
  10. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Meaning Yaser looked good or deficient?

    Thanks for the play by play guys! Game was overnight here in Iceland where I am for the weekend!

    From comments, it feels like we've gotten used to playing with a 10 - so whether James, Quintero or Yaser, we should try to have one on...
     
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  11. Uzuriaga

    Uzuriaga Member+

    Feb 9, 2009
    Estocolmo
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yes Arias in the center and no James was a mistake. I thought it would work out much better than it did. Lesson learned and hope he doesn't repeat that again. Maybe it's not possible to have arias/sini/lucho playing together. Unless sini plays as a 9. I remember sini had some great minutes vs Uruguay in quilla where he hit the post.
     
  12. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    If we drop James we need more creation from all of our front 3 to make up for it and I don't think we can have a Duran/Corboda in that set up without having difficulty getting the ball to our forwards in good spots unless we change alot. We could fit them all in but yeah we need to play Sini as a 9 probably which I think we should try other combinations at 9 but Lorenzo seems dead set on having a traditional big 9 in the squad so idk. If we do have to play a lineup like we started with probably the 2 positions that might need to be changed is the 9 and Lerma to make it work, we need more playmaking and progression from our 6 and we need more 10 like qualities and someone able to drop into midfield if we want to have the same control of the game and creativity that we have with a guy like James.

    The easiest thing to do within what we've done is when James isn't fit just swap Yaser in, that still means probably no Sini unless Lorenzo decides to try a different style of player at 9.
     
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  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #113 HomietheClown, Sep 7, 2024
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    Monsalve will eventually be an option.
    Unfortunately we may have to wait a while because he is still very young and maturing. Hopefully before the World Cup he is ready to play and be impactful at creating for the Senior team.
     
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  14. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Yaser had much more creativity in his few minutes. You can tell he is much more capable of making something out of nothing

    but Arias is fundamental for our team so he has to start

    but man Yaser has so much more magic
     
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  15. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Then we should let the boy cook!
     
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  16. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Not sure if Lerma was still sort of injured but we need a more offensive DM if we are going to play without a 10 or with 2 strikers

    any time Sini, lucho or Cordoba got the ball they had 3 guys on them. Also Peru is a team of 34 year olds with no stamina. Yesterday team vs Argentina would be the blowout of the century

    Mojica yesterday was terrible as well as Diaz till the goal

    Arias had an off game

    not sure if these guys were over confident or drunk. It was a bad game plan by the coach as well.

    if he had gone out there with a B team and they preformed like they did fine. You are giving them minutes but he sent his best 11 minus James and they played that!!!

    also super alarming how dependent we are on a injured 33 year old with a questionable club future

    would love if James gets us to the World Cup but him being the main guy in 2 years at 35 with his injury history. It’s doubtful but this guy is so arrogant and hungry to give Colombia a title I feel he would trade never walking again to play at the World Cup
     
  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    We were missing Davinson too. Although Cuesta is solid I think Davinson has been our most reliable CB this cycle.
     
  18. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    With Yaser and James both on the field, you just know the goal is coming. One of the two is gonna create something regardless if it’s on open play or dead ball
     
  19. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Lucumi just came off injury and was kind of not his best either

    is Cuesta ok?

    tough to lose 2 cbs. Hope we call someone else up if Cuesta isn’t available since don’t want Mosquera feeling up the argies
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Early indications are Cuesta is alright and was only taken out due to precautionary measures. Always have to be careful with a possible concussion but so far they are saying he should be good to go.

    If not Yerson will have to step up and behave himself. After that we may have to shuffle someone at CB like Munoz if there is an injury or red card.
     
  21. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Cabal would probably be the better shuffle at CB now that I think of it. But having him and Lucumi could be too much of a lefty dependent disadvantage. He can always fill in for Lucumi though.
     
  22. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cabal for Mojica would give us defensive stability but then we would lose that extra man in the areas higher up the field
     
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  23. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don’t want cabal debuting and doing bad. Let’s not burn another Medina
     
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  24. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Different players for us, Arias has had a different role, mainly ball carrying and combining and breaking lines with his run or carrying the ball, James was the point of reference to spray the ball around and has that killer pass when the time is right. Yaser just has more of that 10 in him, I think we need to find ways to use him and especially when James isn't playing, but I also think we can do what we did yesterday but we just need to tweak some things and we won't be as likely to create chances and dominate on the ball as well.
     
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  25. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Obviously when James came on, the attack improved significantly. Yasser had his flashes of brilliance too.

    I still think we can be successful with Lucho and Sini in the wings but we probably don’t need Lerma and Rios in the midfield at the same time - I think we still need a CAM, false 9 to be have an attacking presence otherwise our best chance will be shots from outside the 18 which is not a bad thing but should not be our primary tactic.

    Hopefully Nestor doesn’t give up on Sini bc we have seen other players get repeated appearances for doing much worse.

    with that said I would like to see against Argentina

    Duran
    Lucho-James-Arias
    Lerma-Ríos
    Mojica-Lucumi-cuesta-Munoz
    Vargas
     
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