2026 WC

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by johnny6, Jun 11, 2026.

  1. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    That Messi cross was pinpoint because the DEFENDER JUST FROZE AND DID NOTHING. He gave him 10 free yards of space even though he had a DOUBLE TEAM on that side.

    Absolutely HORRIFIC defending. I'd be livid if I was an England fan. Those losers are all blaming Tuchel but IT IS THE PLAYERS that gave them all that space.

    Skill always wins in the end....
     
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  2. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
    You cannot help but laugh. Oh, England.

    The mental gymnastics are hilarious from the crowd who wanted to publicly execute Southgate to being in love with Tuchel. They want to kill the man now, too. Same old story. Transfermarkt does not dictate how well you will play and perform as a TEAM when the chips are down.

    I am loving the meltdown.
     
  3. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    i wonder if they are still singing that song....

     
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  4. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
     
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  5. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
    LOL. They are always the "better team" in all of these big games.

    The better team finds a way to dig deep and find a victory -- in at least one of them.

    Still so happy we saved the world from misery in that 2020 Final -- in which they scored early and got absolutely shit on by truly the better team on the day.
     
  6. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    This is a complete and utter FALLACY. England is not the better team. They were dominated by Norway and dominated by Mexico. They couldn't hold a lead today. WHY? They lack skill.

    No one wants to say it because they are high and mighty EPL players but anyone with eyes can see it. They can't control the ball. They lack touch. They can't keep possession to milk the clock.

    They LACK skill. Until they fundamentally approach their football differently, they will keep having embarrassments at the international level.
     
  7. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    they let in 2 goals and Argentina hit the post twice clean after they tried to park the bus.
    there is no excuse. they have a great athletes but a guy like Rice needs Merino Odegard Zubimendi before that Jorginho to be able to do what he does. England need a top class controlling midfielder and a top class GK. Their defence is just ok but without those two things they won't be able to win.

    Their fans can't compute why their 400m can't control games but it's simple they are all the same profile.They are all runners.
     
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  8. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    I'm actually SHOCKED how dumb some of the English fans are. I know they are hurting and it's tough to lose that game and you want to blame Tuchel.

    But after 60 FCKIN YEARS, you would think someone over there would recognize they lack skill in the midfield. They still don't!!
     
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  9. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    They have no humility.
    Remember Owens tweet when Pirlo dusted England in 2012?
    Said what a joke we have Scholes who has the same quality but is at home.
     
  10. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Ho visto un sacco di piedi di marmo oggi.
     
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  11. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Its baffling! They struggled against Norways midfield of course Enzo De Paul Messi Mac are going to control the game against Rice and Anderson.
     
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  12. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    They have no clue. Until they get a clue, they will be embarrassed like this.
     
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  13. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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  14. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
    They have never been able to find a player in the midfield who can pull the strings and dictate tempo.

    Bunch of guys who run around as you said but cannot link up play. Same problem for years, same result when push comes to shove when it counts.
     
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  15. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    It's really simple. I don't know why they don't understand it. IF YOU HAVE SKILL YOU CAN MAINTAIN POSSESSION. If you maintain possession you dictate the game and milk the clock without a lot of pressure in your area.

    Holy crap how can they not understand this. All I keep reading is "Tuchel sucks" and "we were the better team".

    ROTFLMAO!!!!
     
  16. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    yes its very simple and their defenders GK are not good enough to play counter attack.
    they fluctuate from the 12th best team in poor eras to the 4th 5th best team in their best era but they can never break into that top 2/3rd teams in the world. It's like Tennis the 4th and 5th best teams don't win anything. They are the Andy Murray of the sport.

    Italy France Brazil were the top 3 teams from 1994-2006.
    Spain Argentina France have been the top 3 teams 2018-2026.

    thats how it works. Italy were a top 3 team from 2019-2021 and 1980-82.
    We sometimes have these brief periods where we are contenders out of the blue.
     
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  17. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    i'm still struggling to find out what England actually do well. They have the 2nd best striker in the world and Jude who is an enigma... doesn't really work well tactically but has moments of individual brilliance.

    But they can't obviously lock down a game... they don't really create a lot offensively... they are good at scraping past teams that outplay them?
     
  18. WPG_Azzurri

    WPG_Azzurri Member

    Italy
    Mar 25, 2025
    20260715_181635.jpg

    Makes me appreciate this even more on a day like today.

    God, we need to figure shit out and get back in the trenches with these teams.
     
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  19. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    there will not be a foreign manager in the world cup final.
    this is not a coincidence.
     
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  20. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    that plays a huge part of it. EPL pundits are so biased they brainwash them all into thinking their players are so much better than they actually are.

    I remember going into Euro 2020 .... all i heard was JACK GREALISH oh my hes a world beater. And I never saw him make a single forward pass that whole tournament lol. everything was sideways and backwards.
     
  21. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    English fans are calling for the FA to hire Pep!
     
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  22. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    I'll play devils advocate for this one.

    So maybe they are wrong so explain this. In the 1H when it was still 0-0, how could England have been the superior team if they are crap? Except between, say Minutes 25-40 when Argentina had their best segment. England WERE the better team. England only relinquished their superiority after the negative moves were made.

    To be clear, absolutely nobody is doubting they allowed too many crosses, sat waaaaaaaaaaaay too deep, but isn't this because of the reasons why they are telling you?
     
  23. Rossonero23

    Rossonero23 Member+

    Sep 9, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
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  24. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Argentina is very diverse.
     
  25. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Physically they are superior. They made life really difficult for Argentina in the first 35 minutes.
    But once that press faded their flaws came out. Very average midfield with no creator/controller.
    And a defence that is not organized enough to play counter attack like a prime Italy would.

    They are very good. They are probably the 5th best team in the world right now. They are just not good enough to reach a world cup final. Two things can be true at the same time. Now because their players cost a combined 2billion and their midfield trio cost maybe 400m it is funny how limited they actually are.
     

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