2026 WC USA (et al): Worldwide Opponents Watch [all R's]

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by TimB4Last, Mar 27, 2023.

  1. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    #2726 dna77054, Nov 19, 2024
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    Argentina wins 1-0 over Peru with a pedestrian performance.
    Chile tops Venezuela 4-2 in Chile. Venezuela is not taking advantage of their opportunities.
    Paraguay grabs a 2-2 draw in La Paz against Bolivia
    Ecuador gets 1-0 away win in Colombia while being down to 10 men for most of game
    Uruguay gets a 1-1 draw in Brazil while actually committing fewer fouls than Brazil

    Some interesting notes from Conmebol qualifying:

    Uruguay has 3 wins and 2 draws in 5 games vs Bra, Arg, and Col. Uru playing much better against the "top" teams than the mediocre teams. I think their next game is home to Arg.

    Ecuador has the second-best record of all teams right now and would be alone in second place (3 points behind Arg) if not for the 3-point deduction. I think they also have the best defense of all the teams so far.
     
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  2. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Raul Jiminez with what should have been a second yellow with back to back nasty tackles. He’s lucky to still be on the pitch.
     
  3. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    What the hell kinda defending was that on the 3rd Mex goal. Guy just let him take it down and stood there while he scored.
     
  4. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Under Rueda, Honduras are home merchants, on the road they're pretty much Bolivia.

    It was always wishful thinking to believe Honduras could capitalize in Mexico.
     
  5. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On behalf non-Mexicans everywhere, what a shame. What an opportunity for Honduras!
     
  6. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Can't come in and bunker for 90 minutes. Just not a good game plan
     
  7. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Twice it's happened. The altitude played a part and honestly Rueda's substitutes were horrendous. Called a perfect game in Honduras twice, but too many questionable tactical decisions two times in Mexico killed them.
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
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  10. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Apparently the Gold Cup Playoff matches are set...

    Match ups were based on each teams respective CONCACAF rankings. CR highest ranked play-off team, Belize the lowest ranked, etc. etc.

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  11. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honduras last night was the soccer version of the prevent defense in American football. The only thing it prevents is a victory.
     
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  12. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Agreed, I'm not an expert on who has managed to steal points in Mexico and who hasn't the last decade or so, but in my memory, it's generally required putting pressure on El Tri periodically, and finishing your chances. You can't bunker. Last cycle several teams did a good job of it in Mexico, including the US, Canada, and Costa Rica, 2 of the 3 teams did the job through attacking, not sure what Costa Rica did to grab their draw, and Jamaica came within an 89th minute goal of tying them. In '18 it was just the US, in '14 it was a blood bath (they tied the US, tied Jamaica, tied Costa Rica, lost to Honduras and if memory serves needed a last minute bike goal to beat Panama).

    To me, generally, what this illustrates is you can't mess around on the road, you need to challenge El Tri, and then defend in #'s, if you try to simply outlast them, you won't (there are exceptions but they are quite rare, and usually involve teams with elite defenses for concacrap, not Honduras or Panama or Jamaica etc). That's why I took El Tri -1.5, it just seemed obvious, of course I butchered it by taking the under on 3.5, and 2.5 goals, oh well. Needless to say, I thought El Tri was fine beyond the nagging thought that considering how much they've fallen off and how weak the attack had gotten before Jimenez bounced back this year, well, it might just be too big a hill. It wasn't, and I should have just put everything on El Tri -1.5 like I had planned, seemed obvious they would find a way to get 2 at bare minimum.

    Herc can yell about the beer can all he wants, and I'm sure that helped to some extent, but I think it was 90/10 El Tri was advancing regardless of the 0-2 deficit. Only way I didnt see it happening was if Jimenez had gotten hurt in Honduras. Otherwise, should be easy enough, and it proved so, though it took a while. You simply can't park the bus in Mexico and expect to survive for 90 minutes. It's idiotic.
     
  13. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    You'd think they'd learn.
     
  14. Regi0

    Regi0 Member

    Aug 11, 2011
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    To be fair, Bolivia is actually pretty good at home too. I think both teams probably rank pretty similarly.
     
  15. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I think Honduras road record is pretty deplorable in general. They're only decent road results tend to be in places like El Salvador and oddly enough, Costa Rica/Panama... But I think it's shifting away from that.. and quick.
     
  16. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2741 RefIADad, Nov 20, 2024
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    Unfortunately, I have a better chance to meet the real Santa Claus than an El Tri player getting a 2CT in a Concacaf competitive home game. Not saying you are wrong at all, but that's just never going to happen.
     
  17. USOutlaw16

    USOutlaw16 Member+

    Green Bay Voyageurs
    United States
    Jan 22, 2011
    On the Gringo Wall of Shame
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's like they saw the gameplan from the last Nations League quarterfinals and thought, "Let's do that again!"

    Except there was no controversy this time, Mexico just flat out dominated.
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA ban incoming? Will Canada be punished?

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  19. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    West Ham issued a statement today that Michail Antonio has been involved in an automobile crash in the UK.

    The statement makes it sound very serious.
     
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  20. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, he's one of the most likable guys in the game. Hopefully nothing major, terrible news
     
  21. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Antonio was lucky to survive that. But it looks like his career and his quest for a World Cup appearance are over.

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  23. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    We got Albania and Serbia for World Cup Qualifiers... Hopefully we can avoid a total war this time around.

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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hearing reports he didn't want to lose a fourth straight Nations League to the USMNT
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