2026 FIFA World Cup: Quarterfinals - Argentina vs. Switzerland

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  1. johnbarley2

    johnbarley2 Member+

    Jan 19, 2013
    #526 johnbarley2, Jul 12, 2026
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    Bro, we had four mids and we're expected to dominate the ball, easily beating the press with our quality. You don't need speedy mids or width to do that. You need technique. Do you think the 2010 Spanish side had speed and width? Lol. Two years ago this team could have done it. Sure, the Swiss were going to sporadically press but they were camped out in our half CONTINUOUSLY until the red card daring is to play the ball out the back. Nobody expected tha. Have you considered that except Algeria eceyeone bunkered against Argentina?

    Maybe you were in zoom meetings with the swiss coaching staff and planned their tactica. Good on them cause our midfield failed the test.

    Ayala was asked if it was Argentinas plan to give the ball to Switzerland. He laughed and said no, that's just how it turned out.
     
  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Look at Almada's speed on our final counter. That's what you'll get with a fresh legs. Imagine if Barco and Paz comes in. We wouldnt need at ET , let alone a very late goal.

    ...and Pezzella and Acuna staying at home, thanks!:D


    I was in that mode after Egypt second goal. A week later we're in semi, it hard to believe.

    All things considered, I think regardless what happened in semi or final, the team has shown us strong fighting spirit. Even if the starting line-up and tactic has been underwhelming, but that's on Scaloni's part. The only one player who didnt do jacksh!t outside the first game is RDP.
     
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  3. genden7

    genden7 Member

    Oct 5, 2023
    After below incident involving Nico Gonzalez, I am convinced they are rigging it for Argentina, lmaooo.. these penaldo are the lowest level of human kind.. The ref didn't even call a foul let alone showing a yellow or red card. Imagine Messi or any Argentine player doing this..

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/comments/1uu6m8p/can_someone_explain_to_me_how_this_challenge/
     
  4. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I'm 120% convince all these hate posts towards us is the reason why our teams keeps coming back like a phoenix.
     
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  5. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    You can't be serious lol
     
  6. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    For this match, my main gripe is not the fact that we are not playing the young players, but more of the tactics. You want to go long ball because you are concerned of losing possession in dangerous area? Fair enough, but you can't go long ball with just Julian who isn't the paciest. Nico G. or Simeone should have came in at the 45th minute to provide that outlet. It was painfully obvious and I don't know what goes through Scaloni's head sometimes, especially this tournament.
     
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  7. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    Maybe if the 4 mids were fresh we would have possession. And the alarms about Enzo from the chelsea forums were very accurate. Same for Mac with his season Liverpool. And same with RDP. Do they step up with argentina? Yes of course but its not enough and when you add fatigue, no width, no speed and having to take workload of Messi it becomes impossible.

    Of course it wasnt Scaloni plan to gove possession to the Swiss. He thought he would dominate but he is denial of reality.
     
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  8. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The law was written to get rid of diving. It got rid of a dive. That's exactly the spirit of the game.
     
  9. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's hilarious that in the past people hated us for cheating. Now people hate us because they can't cheat against us. :D
     
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  10. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I dont keep track on other team stats, but I just read that we're highest scoring team in this tournament . Its impressive feats given our forwards outside Messi didnt score much.

    Argentina: 17 goals
    France: 16 goal
    Belgium: 14 goals
    England: 13 goals
    Norway: 13 goals
     
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  11. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The dive buy the Swiss player was so blatant that even the English commentator and co-commentator had, reluctantly, to concede it was a dive.
     
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  12. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    Btw Swiss goal went between Dibu's legs. Really could have blocked that
     
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  13. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I thought it was a good finish, strikers do try and hit the ball between a goalies legs.
     
  14. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Enzo in this Chelsea team + in this current Argentina team is running a lot without possession and Enzo's body isn't made to run. It's like asking Kroos to do the running and then his body isn't meant to run, gets gassed and can't control the ball well.
     
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  15. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    Scaloni should just start Almada instead of Enzo. Keep Enzo as sub for Paredes.

    I say Almada to be realistic with Scaloni not because I want him
     
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  16. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Enzo had a really good season for a pretty average Chelsea team. Mac had a poor season with Liverpool, looked slow and off form all year. The back heel by Mac and the shot by Molina are 2 of the dumbest choices I've ever seen made a player on a football pitch.
     
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  17. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    Enzo had a good season only stats wise. He pops up with a goal after being absent the whole game. Tracks with how he played for us so far. Tbh I am not sure what he is anymore. Is he a an attacking Mid? A central midfielder? And he looks like he plays in slow motion. I mean he was always slow but this is too much
     
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  18. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    I would overhaul this entire midfield except for Paredes. Molina also out he is useless put Simeone i dont care if he never even played RB. At this point we cant keep possession and cant counter either. Its like the worst of all worlds
     
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  19. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah, Enzo had a good season scoring goals and getting assists, but you're right, apart from that he was s**t. Seriously, I give in.
     
  20. Pekerman

    Pekerman Member+

    May 20, 2006
    We are seeing it with our eyes. Its possible to play like shit then score a goal like vs Egypt. Majority of Chelsea fans say the same...if he was playing great they would at least tolerate him. Do you just go by stats and fifa rankings?
     
  21. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Everyone wants Argentina to lose apparently

     
  22. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He certainly did. MOTM along with Lisandro. It's a pity one or two of the others don't have that grinta.
     
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  23. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Molina had a pretty decent game. Apart from that. The ball should have been squared to Julian who was completely unmarked. Would have been 2-0.
     
  24. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Guy has been through adversity come out the other side. Has grinta in spades. Often neglected overlooked and maligned.
     
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  25. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I didn't join the conversation here. Rather nervous and also boy was I swearing.

    Actually I think we played decently in the first half closing them down, forcing them into errors and generally controlling the game. Good to see the set pieces work again. Alexis has been a focal point for the near post delivery.

    But you could clearly see the players tiring in the second half. I was swearing at Scaloni and if I was there I would have slapped him. He yet again is almost responsible for all the issues. They couldn't control the ball, the legs were gone and the Swiss were dominating possession and it was inevitable they would score (once again from the flank).

    Yet he made no changes prior to the goal only after and the same so predictable ones. It's fortunate that Embolo was sent off probably Paredes best action of the night. It swung the game back our way. Had it continued I reckon the Swiss might have won that.

    He's done this before at the last WC. He seems unable to read situations and the measures required to change them.

    He was forced into bringing on Lopez and what do you know it's his control taking the three defenders with him and a precise pass to Julian that stunning second goal. He has to make changes for England. The players some of them are gassed.

    It was staggering not to see Palacios on for Paredes earlier too. Paredes had a poor game and indeed the tactics throughout were poor. We were bailed out largely to individual brilliance and effort.
     
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