Not saying they should or should not complain- the contract was collectively bargained and agreed to so it’s moot. Point is, saying that the salary cap exists to ensure parity is, even as an opinion, untrue. It exists so that instead of raising that minimum to provide a little more for the average NFL player, who has an average career of maybe 3 or 4 years and has to dedicate an insane amount of their time to keep from falling to the fringes of the UFL or Canada or out of the sport entirely, the owners can pocket some more. It exists so that the superstar player at the top of their game will renegotiate to a team-friendly contract to allow a free agent to sign and go on a title run so that the owners can pocket the maximum collectively allowed. It ensures, to an extent, parity of labor costs, but doesn’t seem to ensure parity of performance- just as there are the Patriots and Chiefs of the league, there are also the Browns and the Jets. It is way off topic to litigate who has the right to complain about what, and that’s not my intent, I just find it an interesting contradiction when people (not you specifically - I don’t follow the forum that closely to know your ethos outside of the last few comments) praise owners for being smart businesspeople only to then claim they’re doing something for the sake of parity - they fight for salary caps, as they are supposed to as businesspeople, for the sake of profits- they want cost certainty, anything else is a side effect.
This is what you quoted of me saying this is wrong. The one that is wrong is you or you simply are unaware. The talent pool from the NFL is mainly limited to the US. Most players come via college. Few, very few, come from other countries that play American football but that's very limited, as we, the US, is the country that has this sport as the main sport. It's why you see dynasties in the NFL because if you happen to have a few of the best players in the NFL there is no one that can counter that as there isn't any other place to bring in better or equal quality players. It's why salary caps and parity is needed in the NFL otherwise whoever pays the most will have the best players and win all the time. Soccer is a worldwide sport. You can find players in every Continent, every country, in every division of those countries and you can develop your own players via academies something the NFL doesn't have. Kids as young as 15-18 years old are also an option, that's another thing where the NFL is limited. The talent pool for soccer is simply worldwide since it's the most popular sport in the world. If you fail to see that then I can't help you.
🏆CONCACAF Champions Cup 2027✅CLASIFICADOS LIGA MXSe definen los 6 Clasificados de México para la siguiente edición de la Copa de Campeones CONCACAF.Toluca, Tigres, América, Cruz Azul, Chivas y Pumas están dentro de CCC.Aún quedan los 3 Cupos de la Leagues Cup 2026. pic.twitter.com/MH8ar8MENM— CNF Sports (@CNFconcacaf) May 18, 2026 To no surprise to anyone Tigres, Toluca, America, Cruz Azul, Pumas and Chivas are all qualified to the 2027 CCC. Same group as this year except Chivas is replacing Monterrey. This is getting predictable. I'm not wrong when I say Liga MX just has 6-8 good teams. Which is still a good number considering it's only an 18 team league. I'll throw in my 2028 CCC Liga MX predictions; same group as in 2026 and 2027 but Monterrey will replace Pumas or Toluca.
Not quite, It just looks like that because of the split seasons. Atlas, Leon, Pachuca were the participants 1 or 2 seasons ago. I could say the same for MLS, it's been Inter Miami, LA Galaxy, Sounders, Columbus Crew, LAFC on constant rotation.
Nah, the Galaxy had an 8-tournament qualifying drought between 2016 and 2025, Columbus missed 9 in a row between 2011 and 2020. There were a lot of repeat qualifiers (6) from 2025 to 2026, but that's unusually high.
You including Lesgues Cup which pumps up that number. If Liga MX gets those 3 extra spots the next in line would be Monterrey, Pachuca and Tijuna as the "new" entry we haven't seen in a while. Yes, I know LC depends a lot on who places 3rd, 2nd and 1st. I'm just going off by the aggregate Liga MX table. It's going to be very rare we see any other Liga MX team aside from the usual 8.
As recently as 2023, you had León and Atlas in the competition. León - of course - won the whole thing. León played four CCL/C in a row between 2020 and 2023. Santos played as recently as 2022. Things aren't that static in Liga MX. Let's see what kind of Atlante returns to the league.
PPG (LMX/MLS) since 2020 Club América 1.92 Cruz Azul 1.79 CF Monterrey 1.74 Tigres UANL 1.7 San Diego FC 1.67 Philadelphia Union 1.64 Deportivo Toluca 1.57 Los Angeles FC (LAFC) 1.57 Seattle Sounders FC 1.55 New York City FC (NYCFC) 1.54 Nashville SC 1.54 Columbus Crew 1.53 Guadalajara (Chivas) 1.51 Inter Miami CF 1.5 New England Revolution 1.5 Real Salt Lake 1.47 FC Cincinnati 1.46 Pachuca 1.45 Orlando City SC 1.43 Minnesota United FC 1.42 New York Red Bulls 1.41 Pumas UNAM 1.38 Portland Timbers 1.37 LA Galaxy 1.35 León 1.34 Vancouver Whitecaps FC 1.34 Colorado Rapids 1.33 FC Dallas 1.33 CF Montréal 1.31 St. Louis CITY SC 1.3 Charlotte FC 1.29 Sporting Kansas City 1.27 Atlanta United FC 1.27 Santos Laguna 1.23 Houston Dynamo FC 1.23 San Jose Earthquakes 1.2 Puebla 1.18 Atlas 1.16 Austin FC 1.16 Chicago Fire FC 1.13 D.C. United 1.12 Atlético San Luis 1.1 Club Tijuana 1.04 Necaxa 1.01 Mazatlán 0.97 FC Juárez 0.94 Querétaro 0.86
That was when there were 4 teams from Liga MX only. Now with 6 there are more possibilities of some playing every year. It will interesting to see how many times MLS teams also repeat and/or play multiple years if we only count the 6 that qualify from each league (excluding Leagues Cup as that will throw numbers off no mater which teams they are and from what league). For 2027 CCC Tigres and America will be their 4th consecutive CCC appearance after the new format change. Cruz Azul, Pumas, Monterrey and Toluca have qualified 3 out of the last 4 CCC. In 2027 Chivas will have their 3rd appearance since format changed. Pachuca has had 2 appearance only. Zero first timers since format changed for Liga MX so far. The 2027 CCC MLS teams have not yet been determined so this is from 2024-2026. For MLS (excluding LC teams); Vancouver Whitecaps has had 3 consecutive CCC appearance. Due to Canadian Championship. In 2026 CCC they qualified via MLS though. FC Cincinnati is the other MLS team that has qualified to all of the 3 CCC played so far, pending 2027. Inter Miami has qualified to 2 out of the last 3 CCC. Columbus Crew, LA Galaxy, LAFC, St. Louis, Orlando, New England, Houston, RSL, Seattle, SKC, Philadelphia, San Diego and Nashville have qualified only once in the last 3 editions, 2027 still pending. Now, what's helping MLS is the fact that the USOC winner is a team that didn't participate in the year's CCC. So from MLS side that will be a "new" team each time which on paper makes it seem that MLS isn't "static". In Liga MX there isn't a domestic cup where the teams that didn't qualify to CCC get to play on it and the winner qualifies to CCC. That would've helped Liga MX not seem that it's looking like an 8 league team, at least on paper.
MLS South Division America, Cruz Azul, Monterrey, Tigres, Chivas, Pumas, Pachuca, Leon, Toluca, Atlante (Puebla? Tijuana?)
CONCACAF W Champions Cup Final Four in Pachuca - Semis: Club América - Gotham FC 4:1 Washington Spirit - Pachuca 1:0 Final: Club América - Washington Spirit
But when Colorado plays America in LA or Portland vs America in Austin with more C America fans still complain.
Starting next year the women's tournament will be a similar format to the men's, with fewer teams and rounds. Home and away knockout, then single game final hosted by the team with the most points in the previous rounds.
Looks to be more cost/budget effective. I’m sure if the draw for women we’re similar to the men they would do a home away series
But for the eyes of some people that’s excusable but for the men’s tournament they focus only is the sporting side and not in the business side.
Good layout. Brings home the idea that LMX has less parity than MLS, but probably more than a typical European league (Man City had 2.24 ppg since 2020/21, and I'd bet that Madrid, Bayern, PSV, PSG, et al would be as high or more).
Of course it isn’t. In the same way that I don’t see the Galaxy and DC’s Champions League wins as legitimate, the women’s titles won under this format will have to have a massive asterisk going forward.
Just like the current CCC, it takes a while to build any tournament in CONCACAF because revenue isn't abundant for any tournament day one.