2026 CONCACAF Champions Cup

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Paul Berry, Oct 2, 2025.

  1. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Both MLS teams could be out in the semis and it wouldn’t be a HUGE step back.
     
  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't take the bait people...
     
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  3. STR1

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    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm not exaggerating about anything. I'm just saying I'm tired of hearing (and even me saying it too) of the same old excuse of "well, Liga MX has like 9 DPs".
     
  4. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm not even baiting. Just pointing out the go to excuse we always see when it comes to CCC and MLS teams. Whatever Liga MX does MLS can do too they just choose not to. So bringing up "well, Liga MX teams have like 9 DPs" is just people trying to cope. Every single year we see that excuse all over social media. Never fails.
     
  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  6. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It’s not an excuse, it’s a reason.

    MLS as a business choosing to spend the way they do while pleading poverty is one thing (is that happening anywhere?), but it seems like you’re getting mad at fans for pointing it out, which doesn’t make much sense.
     
  7. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I admitted I too am guilty of pointing it out but it gets tiresome year after year giving the "DP" excuse. But don't worry next year you'll see post about "Liga MX has like 9 DPs" again if you scroll over social media. Never fails.
     
  8. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Im not sure about DP but what I can say is the average level of the non-dp player is still much higher than MLS and that is the difference.
     
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  9. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    The question is whether the young players in liga mx are better. If so, why?
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guys, let’s not feed the troll
     
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  11. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LAFC's apparent second goal in two minutes is in an extended VAR check. Whether or not it counts, Toluca's defense looks very porous in the second half.
     
  12. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point I will be surprised if there isn't a mass confrontation before this game is over.
     
  13. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Liga MX, at least those that compete in CCC and not the rest of Liga MX to clarify, do tend to have better "average" players because they pay better. Whether it is a domestic player or foreigner, the better "average" Liga MX players tend to always play for the better paying Liga MX teams.
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yours was not the bait I was referring to (though I do disagree that a league-leading striker being out is the same sort of "excuse" that we've seen in the past)
     
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To anyone just tuning in. LAFC won the first leg 2-1.
     
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  16. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Ireland
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    Whereas I'm thinking Tigres only got this far because of the away goals rule. That's not exactly a strong argument for Liga MX superiority or MLS weakness.
     
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  17. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Lafc are out. Can't survive that away goal. At least I'm not upset about this one because it's them.
     
  18. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Pretty much lost the first leg by only being up by 1 goal. Literally impossible to not give 1 up at Toluca. Will have to score.
     
  19. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
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  20. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Seriously? The issue isn't solely the schedule. The overarching issue is how rosters are built and the budget rules that determine how a team builds them.

    How do South American Clubs deal with balancing League, State, Cup, and Continental competitions? Cry me a river LAFC. It's not like you still have to deal with the Open Cup in addition to league and CCC play.
     
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  21. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Yeah, I was gonna say, they don't have 9 DPs. They have nine guys who in MLS terms would be TAM types. Therefore MLS teams are very reliant on their DPs to be the best players on the field. If Sam Surridge is out, it's a ton to try to make up for.

    https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/297/overview/concacaf-champions-cup

    If I look up the top players in any given stat, there are plenty of MLS players on that list. The top guys aren't the problem.
     
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  22. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Top guys is why MLS is becoming competitive with LigaMX. Lloris for example has been the man of the tournament for LAFC. Put in a domestic/or non dp goalie and I don’t think LAFC fares the same in the last game vs Cruz azul or last night with Toluca.
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Guys, don’t feed the troll.
    2. It’s not “literally impossible” to not give up a goal.

    English, ************************, do you speak it?

    The Brett from that scene is probably about 60 years old now. Man, time flies.
     
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  24. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I heard LAFC already forfeited the second leg.
     
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  25. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh? It's 0-0 going back to Mexico, and LAFC can score at least 1 (the Galaxy scored 2).
     

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