2025 U.S. Open Cup

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  1. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or maybe MLS going 15-1 is a one-off anomaly and next year they'll lose a few more games.

    Though it might be telling that a couple of MLS teams that went to overtime absolutely dominated the extra 30 minutes. That may be a sign of depth.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Wednesday results:

    2025 US Open Cup
    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 32
    All games are streaming on Paramount+.
    Additional broadcasts noted.

    Tuesday, May 6
    DC United (MLS) 2-0 (aet) Charleston Battery (USLC)
    North Carolina FC (USLC) 1-4 (aet) Charlotte FC (MLS)
    Nashville SC (MLS) 1-0 Chattanooga Red Wolves SC (USLL1)
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC (USLC) 1-4 New York Red Bulls (MLS)
    Tacoma Defiance (NP) 2-3 Portland Timbers (MLS)

    Wednesday, May 7
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC (USLC) 1-0 New York City FC (MLS)
    Rhode Island FC (USLC) 1-2 New England Revolution (MLS)
    Louisville City FC (USLC) 0-1 Minnesota United FC (MLS)
    Philadelphia Union (MLS) 1-1 (pks 5-4) Indy Eleven (USLC)
    Tampa Bay Rowdies (USLC) 0-5 Orlando City SC (MLS)
    Chicago Fire FC (MLS) 4-0 Detroit City FC (USLC)
    St. Louis CITY FC (MLS) 2-0 Union Omaha (USLL1)
    FC Dallas (MLS) 3-1 AV ALTA FC (USLL1)
    Austin FC (MLS) 3-2 El Paso Locomotive FC (USLC)
    Phoenix Rising FC (USLC) 1-4 (aet) Houston Dynamo (MLS)
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) 2-1 Sacramento Republic FC (USLC)

    The winners advance to the Round of 16, May 20-21.
     
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  3. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the final whistle in San Jose, Preston Judd has scored in a victory for the first time in his MLS career.
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Wednesday results:

    2025 Canadian Championship

    Home team first, times are ET

    OneSoccer has the broadcast and streaming rights.
    FOX Sports also carries some games in the US.

    Preliminary Round
    This round is single elimination.

    Tuesday, April 29
    Atletico Ottawa (CPL) 2-0 Scrosoppi FC (L1O)
    Cavalry FC (CPL) 6-0 Edmonton Scottish (L1AB)

    Wednesday, April 30
    Toronto FC (MLS) 2-2 (pks 2-3) CF Montreal (MLS)

    Tuesday, May 6
    York United FC (CPL) 5-0 FC Laval (L1Q)
    Pacific FC (CPL) 1-1 (pks 2-4) Vancouver FC (CPL)

    Wednesday, May 7
    Forge FC (CPL) 3-1 HFX Wanderers FC (CPL)
    Valour FC (CPL) 1-0 TSS Rovers (L1BC)

    The winners advance to the 2-legged Quarterfinals along with Vancouver Whitecaps who got a bye as defending champions. That round will be May-July.
     
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  5. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Pittsburgh gets the cash prize for furthest advancing second division team...who gets the one for third division?
     
  6. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In 2023, the D3 prize was split between the three D3 teams eliminated in Round 3.
     
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  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Has anyone said that in the past 15 years?
     
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  8. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    As a Hounds fan this is cool but I’d rather have better league results over the last six weeks or so (loss on weekend likely as well). I hope they don’t do cutesy marketing about owning MLS.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think NYC's NP team won 3 games last season. Not sure the first team had ever achieved that.
     
  10. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's AV Alta SC (lost at FC Dallas Wednesday).
     
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://bsky.app/profile/thecup.us/post/3loo3t5nj3k2j
     
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  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Round of 32 results analysis:
    Home teams again went 9-7 on advancement. The theme continues with road teams doing well but the division difference was the bigger factor.

    Advancement by affiliation:

    MLS 15-1
    USL-C 1-11
    NP 0-1
    USL-1 0-3

    Cumulative results for the tournament:

    Home teams 44-36

    By affiliation:
    MLS 15-1
    MLS Next Pro 8-5
    USL-1 15-11
    USL-C 24-23
    USASA 2-4
    USL-2 2-7
    NPSL 1-7
    UPSL 1-8
    USSSA 0-1
     
  13. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    lol elsewhere I’m seeing the sentiment that MLS tried extra hard this year because they’re intimidated by USL’s pro/rel announcement.
     
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  14. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is laughable. That noise is largely coming from a minority(?) segment of soccer fans in the US who haven't and don't actually watch US Pro Soccer at any level. If they actually do they would realize/recognize that the bulk of USL players aren't good enough to play in MLS currently. A large number of USL players are former MLS backups, and backups to backups, or former draft picks that washed out of Next Pro.

    Prime example is former USL Goalkeeper of the year Oliver Semle. Philly took a flier on him last season because they needed a bridge between Blake and academy keeper Rick. Semmle is not currently a MLS level goalkeeper. He cost the Union at least 10 points last season due to his inability to command the area and defend crosses. He's been overtaken on the depth chart this year by 19 year old HG Keeper Andrew Rick.

    There's a noticeable gap between MLS and USL, as there should be given the disparities in budgets.
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you in the same X circles as @crookeddy ? ;)
     
  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was also drafted by the Rapids and didn't make the roster despite the Rapids having 7 different keepers (at least, I may his missed one) rostered on the first team since he was drafted in the 22-23 offseason.
     
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  17. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    I think it is laughable but for different reasons.

    My team trotted out the bottom half of their roster even though the US Open Cup is the only plausible chance they have of winning a trophy this season. That's not the behavior of an organization that cares the slightest about what a handful of USL sickos think.
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I doubt they're USL sickos. More like "orfentic" football fans who spend Saturday and Sunday mornings in the pub chanting in faux English accents.
     
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  19. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, the Revs were so intimidated that they left home all 11 starters from last Saturday (and still beat RIFC). :D
     
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  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    2025 US Open Cup

    Home team first.
    Times are ET

    Round of 16
    All games are streaming on Paramount+.
    Additional broadcasts noted.

    Tuesday, May 20
    New England Revolution (MLS) v. Chicago Fire FC (MLS) 7:30 pm CBSSN
    San Jose Earthquakes (MLS) v. Portland Timbers (MLS) 10:30 pm CBS Sports Golazo Network

    Wednesday, May 21
    Philadelphia Union (MLS) v. Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC (USLC) 7:30 pm
    Orlando City SC (MLS) v. Nashville SC (MLS) 7:30 pm
    New York Red Bulls (MLS) v. FC Dallas (MLS) 7:30 pm CBSSN
    Minnesota United FC (MLS) v. St. Louis CITY FC (MLS) 7:30 pm
    DC United (MLS) v. Charlotte FC (MLS) 7:30 pm
    Austin FC (MLS) v. Houston Dynamo (MLS) 9:00 pm

    The winners advance to the Quarterfinals, July 8-9.
     
  21. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's mainly the ProRel zealots and anti-MLS crowd that are weaponizing USL to use against MLS. They are trying hard to hype USL. It's true what you say, they don't even watch any domestic league or else they would find out about the difference.
     
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  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m. DC fan, but for the last few years, I’ve had a secondary team that I usually follow on Season Pass, and this year it’s been Charlotte. Here’s my report on Agyemang.

    List everything you want in a lone striker. Strength and technique to hold up the ball, height to win headers, pace to stretch the back line, vision to play in teammates, and finishing. Agyemang is basically great at every one of those, except the finishing, which, yikes.

    If he can just become average at finishing, he’ll be a great striker by MLS standards. The other elements of his game are so strong that a strike rate of 1 non PK goal in 3 matches would make him as valuable as any striker in the league.
     
  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That, plus MLS teams are fully professional…lots of support staff, players get invested in keeping their bodies in top shape, etc. IOW I think it’s less depth than conditioning.
     
  24. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the exact same people hated the USL not that long ago because it was partnering with MLS.
     
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  25. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    The German Cup final features a 3rd dvision team. I am assume Germans are going crazy on X saying this proves that the third division is better than the Bundesliga, right?
     
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