2025 U-17 WWC Morocco

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  1. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    Fair? Yes. But still strange.

    I do wonder if the Italians even practiced PKs during their training as the PKs were so bad.

    As far as the other thread goes I have to pick one as, at my age, dividing attention between two is hard for me and I like "easy" right now. ;)
     
  2. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Maybe the U-20 World Cup quarter final between USA and Germany last year? Germany scored 2:0 at 90+2 and then USA scored at 90+8 and 90+9. USA won on penalties.
     
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  3. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    Probably what I was remembering. I wish that somehow my old memory could be augmented.

    The Italy vs Mexico is going to PKs. I wish they played extra time in youth matches. Pks are just so unsatisfying and, in a lot of ways, unfair. I do not see any way for Italy to win this but each PK is new so anything can and often does happen.
     
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  4. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    Italy just can't take PKs well, but Mexico seems MUCH better. It ain't over but it looks unlikely that Mexico will miss.

    As I thought Italy has no PK ability and Mexico advances 5-4 on PKs.
     
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  5. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    You were right, sob.
     
  6. GoodHands

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    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    In most cases I would rather be left. ;) :) :D
    You did not mean the other sob, did you?
     
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  7. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    I should be more careful with potential acronyms: I of course meant sob in the sense of sigh and sigh in the sense of sniff.
     
  8. jagum

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    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Venezuela
    Jun 20, 2007
    Panama City, Panama
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Venezuela
    Of the four semifinalists, three come from Group B: Korea DPR, the Netherlands, and Mexico. (Poor Cameroon:().
    I think we already know who will win...
     
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  9. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
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  10. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #160 Lechus7, Nov 3, 2025
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2025
    The Canadians were close... Japan as far as they never been before, France was in France... but as usual not at the end, while the Italians were the architects of their own undoing.
     
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  11. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Korea DPR defeated Brazl by 2-0, but in fact in didn't look like such a lopsided match until, at the end of the 1st Half, Brazil conceded a PK and a Red Card because one of their DFs saved a shot that was directed to the goal with her hand. I anyway guess it was most on their keeper, who spilled the ball thrice (!) in that same action (and at least in one case it wasn't a so difficult save to justfy it :cautious:).

    Of course there was no come back for Brazil: North Koreans already look like they're more than 11 on the pitch in normal conditions; go figure how much they can dominate an opponent who's one player down! :x3:

    It's a shame: I would have liked to see how the game would have ended without that unfortunate ejection. :coffee:
     
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  12. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    I wish there was an effective "punishment" between a yellow card and a red card. It seems that, in soccer, we jump from "Slap on the wrist" (yellow card) to the most extreme punishment (red card) with nothing in between. It is a lot like having our justice system go from a $100.00 fine to lethal injection with jail time never even entering into the equation.
    Although that might actually work for our justice system it really does not work for football.
    But if some change is made it needs to be done so that there is no extra delay in match play. Maybe, instead of a red, they could require the player to wear 5 pound ankle weights on each foot for "denial of an obvious goal scoring chance" for the rest of the match and, if they are subbed the sub must also wear the weights as a red carded player cannot be subbed.

    I know that's probably a bad idea but so is the way VAR is handled. Just because something is a bad idea does not prevent the powers that be from implementing it.
     
  13. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Remember this is a youth football tournament. You know, meant to develop future stars in football, not volleyball.

    Andreyna tried to play as BRA's last defender with arms stretched out, behind her goalkeeper: both arms out once her goalkeeper was beaten.

    If that is not a red card, then we are in trouble teaching future generations what football is all about.

    North Korea will face Netherlands in the championship match. Their latest match was 5-0 win for North Korea, during MD3 in group phase.

     
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  14. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    SF

    BRAZIL 0 - 2 KOREA DPR
    J-h. Yu 44'(p.) 52'
    RC: Andreyna 43' (BRA)
    (att: 148)

    NETHERLANDS 1 - 0 MEXICO
    Touzani 69'
    (att: 362)

    Top Scorers

    8 Jong-hyang Yu (DPK)
    6 Won-sim Kim (DPK)
    5 Noa Fukushima (JPN)
    5 Giulia Galli (ITA)


    8th November - FINAL

    KOREA DPR - NETHERLANDS


    3rd place match

    BRAZIL - MEXICO
     
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  15. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #165 Lechus7, Nov 8, 2025
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    Mexico beats Brazil in penalty shootout 3-1 (1-1 in FT and ET) to get the bronze medal.

    Mexico had very well coached team in this tourney.
    Left winger Ospina, goalkeeper Murrieta and pair of central mids and defs caught an eye.

    Final starts in 1 hour (free on FIFA+)

    KOREA DPR vs. NETHERLANDS
     
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  16. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Do Netherlands stand any chances, considering how North Korea bullied them at group stage already? :coffee:
     
  17. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Nope.

    It's 1-0 for N.Korea after 15mins.
     
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  18. Lionel Richie

    Lionel Richie Moderator
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    Real Madrid
    South Korea
    Nov 12, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Watching women's soccer/football since 1999 makes me wonder how North Korea became this dominant. I know that North Korea has won the U-17 Women's World Cup and the U-17 Women's Asian Cup multiple times before, but back in 1999, I never predicted North Korea to become this good. I remember North Korea's 1999 adult team to be physically strong, but with bad teamwork.
     
  19. Lionel Richie

    Lionel Richie Moderator
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    Real Madrid
    South Korea
    Nov 12, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I don't understand why Netherlands's goal got rejected. It was clearly not offsides.
     
  20. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Yes, they're good at youth level but lack of exposure to international football later on makes them stop developing.

    Tomorrow Naegohyang takes on Tokyo Verdy in AFC Women's Champions League so we will be able to get some look on how strong North Korean club football really is... (assuming that's not Korea DPR WNT... just in club shirts ;))
    Judging only by N. Korean youth scene and all that talent accumulated across past decade, they should beat Tokyo Verdy with ease by four or five goals and in general be the front runners for AWCL title in Asia. However, if they struggle against Japan (and later South Korean team), lose, draw, or even win by a single goal, it will mean that their football development has essentially stalled at the U20 level.
     
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  21. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    FINAL

    KOREA DPR 3 - 0 NETHERLANDS
    W-s. Kim 14', R-y. Pak 18', U-g. Ri 42'
    (att: 5 954)

    3rd place match


    BRAZIL 1 - 1 (pso.1-3) MEXICO
    Kaylane 78' --- Evelin 90'+6(og.)
    (att: 648)


    Golden Ball: Jong-hyang Yu (DPK)
    Silver Ball: Won-sim Kim (DPK)
    Bronze Ball: Rosalie Renfrum (NED)


    Golden Glove: Valentina Murrieta (MEX)

    Golden Boot: 8 goals, Jong-hyang Yu (DPK)
    Silver Boot: 7 goals, Won-sim Kim (DPK)
    Bronze Boot: 5 goals Giulia Galli (ITA)


    Fair Play Award: Spain
     
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  22. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Good consolation prize for the young Italian talent.

    Does anyone know if there was an actual trophy for second and third scorers too or if it was just a nominal title? :cautious:
     
  23. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    The game was won by the Japanese team with a 4-0 score (on neutral ground). :coffee:
     
  24. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    This result further highlights the distorted results achieved by North Korea in youth teams, where the development of players is not as important as the final victory.

    I counted four national team players in the Naegohyang ranks (according to team sheets) and at least as many who previously played in youth teams. This raises the question of whether Korean players suddenly plateau in their development after the U20 level, or whether their results in youth teams are due not only to grueling training but also to magic juices and fake birth dates. :cautious:
     
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  25. Lionel Richie

    Lionel Richie Moderator
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    Real Madrid
    South Korea
    Nov 12, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    That certainly is a mystery. It would've been nice if North Korea played in the 2023 Women's World Cup so that we could see how well they play, but North Korea withdrew from the qualification process because of the global pandemic. North Korea did the same with the qualification process for the 2022 Men's World Cup. I wanted to see the two Koreas play in South Korea after they tied in North Korea. North Korea was very rough against South Korea in North Korea's home game.
     

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